The peace-loving residents of Juneau need the City and Borough of Juneau’s proposal for an indoor, underground, fun-gun-range — like it wants to have more and larger cruiseships!
The Veterans for Peace are so very right to oppose this “guns-are-us” assault-rifle-style, fire-away-armory, just a few short miles from our downtown Capitol and City Hall. What message is CBJ really sending out with this one-dimensional sort of economic mall-development plan? What influential groups are at work here? The Veterans for Peace are simply asking for public hearings — more public hearings — to be held regardless of the ones proponents are saying were started back at the end of summer. Is that really asking too much? I think not — unless this plan is on some kind of ultra fast-track? So CBJ administration and planners, please try listening to the entire public you are serving.
Thank you so very much.
Alan R. Munro
Juneau
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Alan you ever finance anything? Time is money and the CBJ Assembly and VFP are wasting citizens time and money with this charade.
Time is money
Those who have lost loved ones to gun violence probably would rather have more time with those they lost. More money in exchange for the time they have lost would probably not be a great consolation. "Time is money" is true only if money is the only thing you value.
But what the proponents of
But what the proponents of this range are doing is creating a venue to teach gun safety and have some fun. They are not putting up silhouettes of Grandma and seeing how many can "cap" her. These are hunters, law enforcement and gun enthusiests. It is much more dangerous to have a gun and not know how to use it, or to no be proficient with it. There were hearings. None of you said anything. Permits were issued. Ground has been broken and building has commenced. All your doing now is grandstanding to promote your own agenda in a pathetic, obstructionary manner. These men are building a business, and a venue for practice and entertainment. They are not holding try outs for Al-Queda although from the VFP members I have spoken with, they would probably support that.
@bj
CBJ is the best at wasting citizens time and money, after that not sure what your saying. But I am all for the gun range and all for the guns, just not our lack of ability to take care of our mentally ill in the US as a whole. Off to work to pay the way, CBJ
They tried, Alan.
" So CBJ administration and planners, please try listening to the entire public you are serving."
They tried. They held public meetings. Invited comments. No-one showed up to speak against it. What do you suggest, Alan? That the Assembly should go knock on the door of everyone who might just possibly be against an issue? Or maybe just call you to make sure their decision is OK with you, Phil and all other obstructionists (thanks, KP) before they record their decision?
This "appeal" reminds of a child's game. Best of 3? Oh, I lost, OK, best of 7? Oh, I lost again. OK, best of 99?
Most of all, though, what irritates me is that, since the appeal was lodged, no-one has offered any proof that construction and operation of this facility will cause harm to anyone. It's just that you and your ilk don't like it.
And that's simply not good enough to overturn the public process in which you, for whatever reason, failed to participate.
And it's certainly not good enough to jerk the business partners around when they have already started on their legally permitted facility.
See you at the next Planning Commission meeting? Probably not.....
Spider
It's not CBJ that's wasting time and money. It's VFP.
Not open to the public
Spoke to an Assembly member about this issue. The response? Everything is decided in committee prior to any vote and public comment opportunity. The range complies with the law, so the assembly's hands are tied. When I asked about actually representing the constituents who voted you in office, the meeting was suddenly over. So much for representative government.
I find it ironic that individuals who hide behind a broad interpretation of the 2nd Amendment will also seek to shout down a group exerting its very specific right to public discourse.
Gallup poll shows the NRA is more popular than current President
FYI
Google:
Poll Shows NRA More Popular Than President Obama; As Usual, Media Ignore
Are there any lawyers in town
Are there any lawyers in town willing to step up and defend these businessmen?
We see the City Attorney protecting his side of the aisle but what about the entrepreneurs?
VFP are anything but for peace - a bunch of washed-up radicals creating chaos to get attention. It's the Alinsky way...
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Mr. Munro, one message is that Juneau is not all Thespians and lesbians as the Railbelt people sometimes say they believe.
Trying my best to give the Assembly the benefit of the doubt, it may be true that this extra process helps build an even stronger record should these tired lefties decide to sue.
Hmm..
I don't know but the NRA has better approval numbers then Obama.
THE 5 WORST/RECENT....
MASS MURDERS IN THE USA (with a firearm) CAME FROM DEMOCRATS.
The five worst mass killings, where a firearm was used, have a common thread.
Hint # 1.
They didn't belong to the NRA. They don't fit the stereotype of the "redneck" gun owner.
CHECK IT OUT:
Ft. Hood: Registered Democrat/Muslim.
Columbine: Too young to vote, both families were Registered Democrats and Progressive Liberals.
Virginia Tech: Wrote hate mail to President Bush and to his staff.
Colorado Theater: Registered Democrat, Staff Worker on the Obama campaign, Occupy Wall Street participant, progressive liberal.
Connecticut School Shooter: Registered Democrat, Hated Christians.
Common thread is that all of these shooters were progressive liberal democrats.
Also, of the worst killings in the last several decades, only one was a female, all the rest were boys, barely men. Their role models were RAPPERS, ACTION MOVIES, COMICS and VIOLENT VIDEO GAMES.
Our problem isn't weapons, it's boys without boundaries, who live in progressive households.
The source of information for this post came from Roger Hedgcock"s !-17-2013 radio show.
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So for me this comes down to one question...
Is it legal? Obviously this is. So frak off.
Can any one person that finds another's legal pastime bar that pastime? Obviously the answer is no. Well, not just no, but FRAK NO.
If this can be barred, what about a store that sells an offensive book? What about a store selling offensive fabrics? This reminds me of the uproar over a Hooters possibly coming to town.
This is legal. Part of that legality is that it is an area zoned for it. End of discussion.
What message does shutting down this business send?
El_Boorba
Maybe the Borough should look at closing stores that sell crappy painting done by pious artists.
Opinions are like.......
Many are passionate in their beliefs, this would be considered normal. Some are very supportive and vocal regarding the shooting facility and then there are those who want nothing to do with it. THEN, there is that group who really doesn't give a rip about the shooting facility or anything else for that matter. It's over, done, kaput, let's get on with the show.