The city’s AJ Mine Advisory Committee has begun to shape an answer to the mayor’s question: Under what circumstances, if any, should the City and Borough of Juneau promote development of the AJ Mine?
The answer from the sub-committee: It depends upon what kind of mine is being considered.
The panel heard a report from members of its economic subcommittee Wednesday night which explored economic issues related to the mine.
The subcommittee studied the economics of a small mine concept, similar to what Echo Bay had last thought about before it abandoned attempts at reopening the mine.
Presenters at past mine committee meetings have said the biggest reason Echo Bay retreated from it’s 1997 attempt at reopening AJ was because gold prices were less than $400 an ounce and it wasn’t economically feasible to operate that kind of mine.
City Engineer Rory Watt said the committee model envisioned a mine employing 200 people, producing 3,500 tons of rock per day, of which 2,000 tons per day would be processed for gold in an underground mill. Gold and concentrate would be shipped outside Juneau for processing.
Tailings would go in open voids within the mine and depending on local and regional markets, rock would also be sold. It estimated ore reserves of 780,000 ounces of gold and, if mined over 10-12 years, the life of the mine could be longer.
The two-page report also lays rough details of royalty payments for ore and stone, lease payments and taxation.
Greg Erickson, who was also on the sub committee, said they also figured 130 new jobs would indirectly be created in the city — 30 would be new government jobs mostly on the local and state level.
Erickson said those jobs would hardly affect any one industry in the city more than 1 percent. He said the overall growth, given 17,600 existing jobs, would be 1.9 percent overall.
“The biggest thing (the mine) depends on is what kind of mine we’re thinking about having here,” Erickson said. “We want to look at what works as a scenario. We could be doing ourselves a disservice by being too specific. ... It’s clear we have to have a scenario. I am hopeful we will come up with a recommendation to proceed. The key thing is going to be setting the sideboards. I for one want to make sure the comments of the community are considered as possible sideboards.”
He said if some concerns of the community can’t be met, that at least there is a clear reason why.
D. David Chambers, with the Center for Science in Public Participation, gave a presentation on responsible mining and how it applies to the AJ mine. Chambers is a geophysicist by training, has spent 50 years exploring the physics of mining, gas and geothermal and spent 20 years working in non-profit sector.
He explained responsible mining, and how that occurs with regulatory agencies and other organizations. Chambers said state and federal rules are the only ones enforceable, all others are voluntary to a company.
Chambers posed three questions as they relate to the AJ Mine: How will community consent for a mine be measured? Will there be an Environmental Impact Statement and equivalent public involvement (power to challenge the findings of an EIS equivalent) if there is no federal permit to mandate that process? How will “guarantees” made to the community before the mine opens (mining lease) be preserved during operation?
Chambers suggested that the mining lease is not the place to do that. The committee was interested in how they would do it outside the lease. He gave the scenario of the mining company coming to the Assembly saying they can’t afford to put tailings underground anymore so it’s either amend the lease to change the tailings practice or lose 200 jobs. Chambers said Assembly members change over time so the next body may not uphold what the initial panel set out to do. Adding something like a public advisory council, which would have some additional authority in the lease, could help prevent that. That advisory council could be made up of members of the public — non profits, the chamber of commerce director, people with expertise in mining. Chambers said permitting also wouldn’t work because if the city is granting the permit to begin with, it also can change the permit.
Chambers also suggested they look at reasonable mining criteria for the AJ including: underground tailing disposal, underground processing, minimizing traffic, minimizing noise and only standby power generation. Other suggestions included no cyanide-based processing, no surface caving due to mining, insuring water quality and the quantity of CBJ water supply, insuring long-term mine discharge water quality (CBJ liability), and a mining lease royalty.
The committee members now will take a worksheet drafted by Watt and individually draft conditions for topic areas of tailing disposal, mine access, milling, drinking water system, economic, sustainability/energy, traffic, noise/light, local/regional hire, and other areas, such as recreation, environmental, and social concerns.
They are to e-mail back their conditions for how those areas must be if the AJ Mine is to become operational, suggestions due by April 5. Watt will compile an initial draft for the April 7 meeting. On April 7, the committee members will for the first time discuss their positions of what the conditions should be. On April 21, the public will have a chance to comment on the committee’s drafts.
The committee has to have a final report to the Assembly by May 1.
• Contact reporter Sarah Day at 523-2279 or at sarah.day@juneauempire.com.





Comments (21)
Add commentJobs
300 private sector jobs! Those are mostly good paying jobs that produce a product that other people want to buy, there by creating wealth.
As opposed to the 30 government jobs that act much like a parasite. But all, in all reopening the AJ mine would be a big economic plus.
Lower taxes
Juneau would be a step closer to being self sufficient if this moves forward!
Selling Rocks
I've noticed when I travel that many small cities have rock shops - usually more than one. They appear to be quite busy. A "Rock Shop" is a good little idea - people can get a real piece of Juneau for relatively little money compared to some other souvenir shops - kids especially like rocks. I think people who wouldn't be inclined to make any purchases at all, would fish out a few bucks for a rock. It's not the biggest part of opening the mine, and we won't get rich selling rocks, but it's a nice little side enterprise. If it's done right, I have to agree with madison (GASP!) "reopening the AJ mine would be a big economic plus."
"The kind of mine"
A BIG GOLD mine,with plenty of high paying private sector jobs for decades!!! A mine with high returns to the City to offset all property taxes and replace Juneau's aging infrastructure. Do it now!!
I hear a lot of excitement
I hear a lot of excitement about this proposition. Let's not forget this mine sits on our watershed.
Just make sure you protect
Just make sure you protect your water supply. Gold quartz for rock hounds good idea.. You may want consider what use you can make of the waste rock rather than just dump it. Good Luck.
It sounds like the city is
It sounds like the city is taking this one step at a time and actually interested in the community's input.
Take it slow and address every issue, especially water, and we might actually see some growth in Juneau.
I do not trust any effort that wants to skirt the EPA.
The only reason why folks are pushing the "small mine" concept is so they can skirt epa regulations, and this certainly is not good for the public.
And just who stands to gain from this mine: AELP, Inc., shareholders, the city and a few other local individuals, so lets get these details out on the table so everyone can see who the people are that really stand to benefit from this mine because its not YOU.
Remember the Devil is always in those pesky details.
I for one do not want a mine in down town Juneau, its a public health hazard for a host of reasons.
Haily, your house is probably
Haily, your house is probably built on those pesky health hazards. Keep in mind most of downtown is built on mine tailings.
Health hazard?
Sandy Beach the biggest recreational playground in Juneau sits entirely on a mine site that was developed and operated with ZERO consideration for the environment. Quite the public health hazard isn't it Haily.
Why have we not seen any
Why have we not seen any reduction in our taxes with the Kensington mine or Greens Creek?
Where and what has mining brought us? Who got rich? Did our local residents working this mining project become wealthy? I don’t think so.
The reason folks want a small
The reason folks want a small mine is because that's what would be best for the location. The city is studying downsides upsides how to do it. Basicly they're trying to find information instead of just spewing guesses with no facts or research.
Haily if your Opposed to a mine how about Waitin until a proposal is released. Stating what they plan to do and how. Coming off against this before anything has even really been discussed just takes all credibility away from your opposition.
The city might actually realize it's not in the best interest to do it. But until we know what were actually taking about I applaud people supporting the city for trying to get some development going. The census revealed that southeast is in serious danger and we can't just sit and do nothing or we'll disappear.
Go for the gold
Juneau needs another revenue source. Its not like they'd be mowing down pristine forest in a remote location for this. Everything is here-workers, roads, equipment, transportation facilities. I'll take a mine over a nuclear plant!
A mine in down town Juneau?
A mine in down town Juneau? Good lord NO!
Some people will do anything for a buck! We have a beautiful city lets not destroy it and the only people that will gain from this are the investors, period. Also s boom and bust economy brings all sorts of problems to a community.
Who has benifited from Ken so
Who has benifited from Ken so grin and greenscreek? All of Juneau. Each mine has close to 300 employees, most which call Juneau home. Those miners earn a very respectable income that gets spent right here in Juneau.
If it's done right a small mine downtown could be fine. Who would benefit from it? All of Juneau again.
The people that think all development=evil and bad for everyone but a few are just as bad as the people that push for development without regard for the environment or other impacts.
If it's a bad idea it'll come out from research not uneducated guesses based on no facts and so far ignorant statements
Look at Juneau and Douglas. Are we dealing with any bad effects of mining which built this town?!? I grew up on sandy beach, worse thingthat came from mining over there would be some rusty metal. And even the stuff that got abandoned out there like tracks cable cars are tourist attractions now!!
Development does not equal bad. Not if done correct at least. The city's main concern is that if it's done it stays safe and in control.
"Correct" Development
@Alaskastu: I agree that development is fine if done correctly, but who wants to do it correctly? We have a number of fat white guys in our country who think government regulation is something straight out of hell, that the environment is ours to rape and poison and pave as we please, and that those who are not also white and fat aren't "real" Americans, and thus don't matter.
"Correct" development means analyzing all the risks and mitigating them. It means taking into account all externalities and making someone pay for them (thereby making them NOT externalities at all). It means an investment of time and work that most fat white guys are too impatient for.
(no offense intended if anyone IS a fat white guy--you can be a fat white guy without being a fat white guy, if you know what I mean)
Chambers, an unbiased opinion?
I seem to recall this guy being totally against anything to do with mining or development in SE Alaska....now he is an expert and is giving an unbiased opinion on the AJ??
Give me a break, would ya?
Who is bankrolling him to be an outside expert? Mayor Botelho or SEACC/Sierra Club or all three??
Take anything he has to say with a grain of tailings.
Build it now.
Umm
@Scott907: So, you think the Sierra Club and similar organizations exist to prevent development just because it's their evil goal? You do understand that they have an ethical position promoting conservation forethought, right? Because I'll tell you, "build it now" shows absolutely NO forethought, and I would trust anyone bankrolled by even the most extreme environmental groups over someone who thinks "build it now" is a substitute for critical analysis.
There are too many problems
There are too many problems with this.
Noise, traffic, pollution, water issues, tailings, all this will change Juneau for the worse.
And what happens when gold falls to $400 or less?
No, we can do better than this, we have to.
The things brought up for and
The things brought up for and against are valid. So study and find out more info.
I don't support drill baby drill or build it now mentality.
I equally don't support the just say no mentality.
All the things brought up need to be researched before we use them as reasons for and against. Just because one person cant see it being possable doesn't mean it gets an immediate 'no'
Revenues to the Borough
I think a key component missing is that the CBJ owns the land and mineral rights and that we would benefit directly from the revenues. This is unlike Kensington where we get most of the direct revenue from property tax. I believe the revenue would easily reduce our property taxes by 50%.
IMHO
I don't have the expertise to say if re-opening the AJ is environmentally sound. What I do have is 16 years of a family being supported nearly singularly by mining. By my own definition, we did not get "rich" through this income, we are, however, financially secure.
For those who don't believe mining makes a financial difference for their employees, I respecfully disagree.