Nearly everything Capital City Fire and Rescue Fire Marshal Dan Jager touched on Friday turned to dust, and what did not hardly resembled the item it should have been. That is the power of fire and that is the world in which Jager works. For the past two-and-a-half months he has crouched, crawled, dug, and sifted through 18 suspicious fires.
“They are all different sizes,” Jager said. “They run the gamut. At this time we can’t relate them to one individual but we are piecing it together with the police department as far as finding similarities. Both agencies are looking at stuff.”
The latest was Friday’s Crow Hill Condominium parking structure, or what one Crow Hill resident called, “A parking lot in hell.”
The multiple vehicle fire burned so hot at Crow Hill that one tenant could feel the heat inside her apartment directly across the street. The sloping hillside could have led to leaking fuel flowing and igniting multiple residences.
“I was awake and my cats were acting kind of strange,” tenant Alice Leuchte said. “I got up and smelled something strange and thought I left the stove on. I went towards the front door and looked out and there was this wall of flames and you could feel the heat. I dialed 911 and scrambled for a wet towel. You could hear things popping and exploding. It was kind of shaking the outer walls. The dispatcher was great and calming and trying to get me to exit the building, but there was no way I was walking out that front door.”
Another tenant in a building adjacent to the carport had the leaves of a tree burn and window caulking soften.
“I have never been so terrified,” the tenant said “Another five minutes and our building would have been on fire. The first responders on scene saved us all.”
Witnesses described a huge orange fireball.
Jager’s footprints as he walked along the debris perimeter were highlighted with grey burn residue, a mixture of metal, wood, plastic, and rubber. Luckily no residents were injured. Any injury suffered by a responder can lead to a felony charge. At Crow Hill one CCF&R responder was sent to Bartlett Regional Hospital for breathing problems and later released.
“This is getting serious,” neighbor Dan Gowdy said. Gowdy lives near Crow Hill and nearer still to a suspicious vehicle fire at 1501 5th Street in Douglas. “We were just one house away. It’s just a matter of time before one of these places catches on fire with all these little firebugs running around. We are throwing up cameras.”
Jager agreed a camera is a good thing.
“Vehicle fires can burn hotter,” Jager said. “Especially in this situation because you have multiple vehicles.”
Jager said the multiple fuel sources, the plastics and foam inside a vehicle, the car tires, and then a wood structure covering it intensified the blaze.
The fire was so hot that trees on the perimeter had scorching patterns on leaves, and mailboxes were melted on door paths roughly 50 feet away.
“The amount of heat one vehicle alone puts off is pretty impressive,” Jager said. “So when you have all these vehicles packed in it kind of builds off of itself.”
Jager said the real challenge of doing fire investigations is that the majority of the time it is just a big burned-out spot. He compiles notes, compares them to interviews and takes photos.
The photos are printed off and looked at over and over. Multiple trips are made to the site. Burn patterns on vehicles and wood are examined. Burn patterns on the surrounding grass and vegetation. The amount of heat on each tree and each building reveals a clue.
“We look at so many aspects,” Jager said. “The thing that makes it challenging is there are so many different variables. It is considered a science.”
It is a lengthy science as well and that does not always sit well with the public. And if evidence is found and collected it is sent to the State crime lab and another lengthy scientific process is involved. And just because it is a fire case doesn’t mean it has priority over any other.
“We can’t always figure out what causes all of them,” Jager said. “It’s unfortunate, but sometimes we can’t explain it. We can show where it started but we may not have the real idea why it started.”
“Follow up is happening as we speak,” JPD Sgt. Paul Hatch said. “We’ve assigned it to investigators and it is being actively investigated. No suspects at this point, but based on the fire marshal’s determination we believe it is arson.”
Hatch said the JPD had talked to tenants and witnesses and was working closely with CCF&R on all the fires. The JPD Crime Line web site, or JPD at 586-0600, is another tool at both agencies disposal. Callers can remain anonymous, and tips that lead to an arrest or conviction pay handsomely.
“Anyone who has any information it would be a huge help,” Jager said. “No matter how small it might seem we will follow up on everything we get calls on because we just don’t know. If anyone has any information, if they were here, if they saw anything, if they were here right before the fire got called in that is a huge help, if they have friends or family that have talked about it, anything.”
Jager stated that interviews are huge in the investigation. Witnesses can describe the color and how big the flames were which identifies what types of fuel burned. It can reveal a flames characteristics.
“We do a lot of interviews,” Jager said. “The first fire personnel in are important too. Where they saw the first fire and the most fire. The rest of it is just observation of the overall fire scene and looking at burn patterns. Trying to figure out from the least damaged area to the most damaged, pinpointing where and how it started.”
Multiple service calls around the city limited the first responders to just four individuals.
“I was one of the first official personnel here,” Jager said. “There was already a crowd of people from everyone who lives around here.”
Jager said those first witnesses may have seen something or someone unusual in the area. JPD and CCF&R have scoured the surrounding woods and complex in search of clues. Anything from a discarded gas can, or a footprint, to an extinguished match or cigarette, or even the vapor of an accelerant on a branch can be information.
“It can be the most minute thing that can make the biggest difference,” Jager stated. “And as we go through this debris we do it carefully, we can’t just shovel it aside. Fire investigations are not a quick cut and dried type of thing.”
Jager pointed out the opposite end poles of the former parking structure, nearly black through and through except for small brown portions facing out and away, and the center pole burnt to the ground.
“It is giving us a V pattern,” Jager said. “But we still need to consider wind direction at the time, fuel loads of the vehicles at the time, mechanical or electrical problems, other materials in the structure. There are still a lot of variables and they can all intensify things.”
Automobile remnants of the blaze appeared to be in an apocalyptic morgue setting as Jager knelt by each, peered into each, his gloved hand invading someone’s world he otherwise would not see.
“Another thing people need to realize is that just because a fire occurs doesn’t mean that all the evidence is burned up,” Jager said. “Burn patterns are visual evidence and there is always something left behind at a fire scene.”
A Honda SUV, Ford pickup, Ford Mustang, Toyota 2-door pickup, an older Subaru, and a new Subaru Forester had been totaled.
Damage was estimated at more than $150,000, and soon insurance companies will send their own investigators.
The vehicle owners are also being interviewed to see if they saw something when they parked or drove in, or if they have angered someone who wanted revenge.
The new Forester was the furthest from the blaze. It suffered melted windows, light coverings, tires, seat coverings and panelings and what the heat didn’t get, the smoke did.
In a last feeble struggle to function, it’s car alarm still sounded, albeit briefly, and for no apparent continuing disturbance.
“It has been doing that,” Jager said. “Off and on all day.”
• Contact reporter Klas Stolpe at 523-2263 or at klas.stolpe@juneauempire.com.




Comments (11)
Add commentDid the burning ever stop
Did the burning ever stop from years ago, could it be the same person/people? Was the person who burned the dump truck on the road to Eaglecrest ever caught?
I do not suppose the Auke Bay arson was released from prison and no one has made the connection? I hope not
Great job Mr. Jager. If
Great job Mr. Jager. If anyone can resolve these you can. I feel better knowing we have a professional of his caliber on the job.
JPD couldn't catch a cold...
The only thing JPD will do is use this to show how little they are appreciated. They need more money, they need a raise, they need their schedules curtailed to better fit a banker's hours. The last thing you will see is them actually doing is catching a criminal. They may catch someone they don't like and pin the rap on them if they can make all the evidence line up against them. That would at least make us (the general public) feel better thinking they did something...
Awesome opportunity to slam
Awesome opportunity to slam JPD on this story. They are assisting the fire department investigator with interviews and talking to witnesses.
All of those evil cops will probably just pick a name out of the phone book and set them up because they have so much free time on their hands.
There is approximately 31,000 people in Juneau. There are typically 4 to 5 officers on duty at any given time. They work an 8 to 10 hour shift. Throw in a lunch break, a briefing and time to write daily reports they might be on the road 4 to 6 hours at best. They are also busy being a parent to the kids we refuse to parent, they are asking people to be nice and turn down the music because we are a coward to knock on our neighbors door. They run to a gazillion domestic violence calls because we can't treat each other with a little respect. Throw in the alcohol related calls from fights to fatal accidents.
These cops have a difficult job to do with the unjustified scorn of many people.
A recent poll at the Lemon Creek Correctional Center showed that 97.5% of the people incarcerated are their unjustly.
Cops are upstanding people in our community that give back a lot on duty and off duty. We are not always going to agree with decisions that are made. Most people are bitter at the PD when they got caught doing something they should not have been doing. It ia after all the cops fault we could not hold our temper or got behind the wheel of a car. The are enforcing the rules, we as a society have stated are unacceptable. If you don't like the rules work on getting them changed. In the mean time they are doing the job, I as a tax payer, am paying them to do.
My hat is off to the Fire Marshal who is working so hard to stop these senseless fires.
The key here is...
18 fires in two months. Sheesh. I would hope that if I had 18 of something happen in two months I'd be able to know whether or not they were related, at least. Good job, Jaeger. Keep on sifting...
Here here...
mpshake: obviously they aren't appreciated...as shown by your incredibly naive comments.
fireguy: Very nicely put, it is clear that you know what they are really up against.
gandercall: if that is a snipe at the fire marshal, obviously you think you can do a better job, so get out there and do it...or keep quiet and appreciate the hard work that veteran fireman Dan Jager (see the spelling?) puts in.
Appreciated
Mpshake is always bitter when commenting about JPD or AST...after all he's one those criminals JPD actually caught doing something and sent him to the pokey...his post wreak of felon...something he will always be...the reality is police are never appreciated until you need one. Then, all of sudden, oh my godness their appreciated. I've seen police officers be called to assist some of the biggest a-holes in Juneau. People who hate the police for no reason, and are vocal about it. Then they need a cop and they call for one. And guess who shows up as proffessional and polite as ever, ready to place themselves in what ever danger need be to protect and serve even the a-holes of Juneau. Yep mpshake, the police. Even for you. And mpshake, you are not the general public. Your a felon.
People like mpshake are the
People like mpshake are the reason we will always need police.
Also, just in case he doesn't realize it, being "handicapped" in the brain doesn't give you the right to park in the handicapped areas. Once a low life, always a low life, whether you "found God" or not.
fireguy
I think we should call JPD to include fireguy as a suspect in these arson cases. haha
PS I have been to prison. 97% are guilty. How ever 97.5% say they are innocent. haha
MP has the shakes
Hey MPShake, why the bitterness? I wouldn't call myself a "cop calling, letter of the law" type by any means. The bias I've seen toward others by police in Anchorage has scratched that notion out of my mind forever. But I have seen a big difference in the manners of the police since I moved here from Anchorage in February. Juneau police are thoughtful and listen, from what little I've seen. APD has their mind made up the minute they pull up. In Anchorage, the noisy, yelling one is agitated because he's the trouble maker. Here in Juneau, the cops might take the time to find out that the guy is agitated because the other guy just assaulted him.
Juneau has a small police force. From what I know Juneau hasn't had a murder in 4 years. By way of contrast, Anchorage has had four murders since I moved here 5 months ago. It amazed me that a recent violent robbery made the headline here. Remember Nathan Block/Lambros Goldsmith? In Anchorage, Block would have been Page 8, if there.
I think we are OK with JPD. They might not have any open murder investigations (granted, there may be some cold cases I'm not yet aware of) but they investigate things like burglaries and arsons and assaults and rapes, etc. They'll do whats needed to get their man. And when they do, I suspect it wont be some random guy they pin it on.
And MPShake, to answer the dumb shirt your avatar is wearing, I'm VERY happy with the change! In fact, I'm gonna plant that change in the ground and let it grow, while I pull up that Bush as the weed it truly is!