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Firefighters, city make arguments on wage issue

Posted: August 3, 2011 - 9:25pm
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Assistant City Attorney Jane Sebens, left, and Mila Cosgrove, human resources and risk management director for the city, read over an exhibit offered by the firefighters’ union during a fact-finding session Wednesday in the Assembly Chamber. City Manager Rod Swope and Deputy City Manager Kim Kiefer watch in the background.   Michael Penn / Juneau Empire
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Assistant City Attorney Jane Sebens, left, and Mila Cosgrove, human resources and risk management director for the city, read over an exhibit offered by the firefighters’ union during a fact-finding session Wednesday in the Assembly Chamber. City Manager Rod Swope and Deputy City Manager Kim Kiefer watch in the background.

The International Association of Fire Fighters (IAFF) and the City and Borough of Juneau presented their cases in a wage dispute to a fact-finder on Wednesday.

The city and union are at an impasse over one point in contract negotiations — wages. IAFF wants an increase while the city is standing firm on zero-percent increases for all employees for the upcoming year. IAFF, however, maintains their increase is to catch firefighters up with non-represented and Marine Engineers Beneficial Association employees — which, when combined, account for roughly 500 of the city’s 700 direct employees (not including hospital, school district and other similar employees).

Roy Johnston, president of IAFF Local 4303, said the city completed a wage study in 2003 that recommended a 6 percent wage increase to all employees. Johnston said the rest of the city was given 5 percent, and that amount was never fully given to the fire department. That amount is what IAFF is pursuing in this year’s wage increase.

Johnston also said the department wants to remain on-par with the way other employees are compensated.

He said since 2003, when IAFF branched out from MEBA (the city’s main union), MEBA employees have had wages increased 19.5 percent, non-represented employees are up 19 percent and fire personnel 14 percent. Public safety employees were lower, but had variables within that grouping.

Johnston said the city has maintained a pattern of keeping relatively even wage increases, except for times when the police department had difficulty recruiting. Even then, Johnston said, wage increases for that kind of compensation were small.

“We’re asking for $175,000-$180,000 depending on the most recent study and increase,” Johnston said. “That and the numbers, if you look at the city manager’s budget message, says everything’s in good shape. We were in balanced budget years. It’s not our job to be a burden on the city, it’s our job to negotiate fair wages.”

Johnston pointed to budget messages from City Manager Rod Swope in 2008, 2009 and 2010. The union began its bargaining with the city in December 2009. One message showed the city had reached its goal of attaining $10 million in budget reserves and another $4 million in emergency reserves. Emergency reserves are for true emergencies — natural disaster related damages. The budget reserve is intended to serve as a transition between budget shortfalls and the tightening of the budget when the reason for those shortfalls is expected to be a long-term issue.

Johnston said the wage talks this time have been clear — the city wanted revenue-neutral proposals and it would not give increases because it had no money to do so. Juneau is facing an $8.8 million combined budget shortfall in fiscal years 2011 and 2012.

Johnston said the city does have money, if it wanted to spend it. He pointed out city manager memos and end-balance budgets show the city consistently spends less than it brings in and often brings in more than it expects. He said that the city saves more than 5 percent of its budget for reserves, more than double the recommendation by Moody’s, a credit rating service.

Johnston acknowledged there are negatives to balancing the city budget, like decreased sales tax revenues and the general fund balance decreased. He said Swope’s message in April was “more gloomy than we’ve seen before, but it still says we have a balanced budget.”

The city’s argument focused largely on policy and balancing the budget. Swope said it’s his directive from the Assembly to do so and while the city does have reserves and a balanced budget, there also isn’t room to be increasing wages. He said in order for reserve monies to be spent, the Assembly would have to approve it.

Swope also pointed to the city’s guiding principles, which outlined the need for the two reserve accounts and how they are to be spent.

“In the case of CBJ, a significant amount of our operating budget relies on state support,” Swope said. “It’s no secret the trans-Alaska line and oil revenues are declining at a fairly rapid rate. We’re at about 605,000 barrels per day. I’ve seen various projections of when the pipeline will cease to carry oil, I’ve heard seven years. I think the state and our reliance on the state for revenues, if they run into problems, could be very serious. It would be fiscally responsible and prudent to have that financial reserve available.”

Swope also pointed to several areas the state funds — such as school projects and PERS — and said if the state gets into financial woes it could easily take them away. He added there are a lot of state jobs in town as well, and if those were to go away the city revenue base would flop because it would impact property and sales taxes — 87 percent of the city’s revenue.

“We’re not making a case for inability to pay,” Swope said. “(What) we’re making a case for is fiscal responsibility. We want to make sure we can take care of our responsibilities not only now, but in years to come. We believe we will be facing a $7.5 million deficit over (fiscal years 2013-14).”

Swope also added sales tax revenues are still down, investments are poor and property values are static.

Craig Duncan, finance director, spoke of how the city forms its budget every two years and how it amends it. He also explained that employees under MEBA are paid out of the general fund, whereas some employees are in a category called rotary. Those employees are paid out of a separate fund and those include IAFF employees.

“Funding sources we use to pay for these services are primarily property and sales taxes,” he said. “They support all areas of funds.”

Mila Cosgrove, the city’s Human Resources and Risk Management director, addressed more of the concerns that related IAFF’s desire for fairness and matching wages.

Cosgrove said the reason MEBA got the 3 percent increase is because it was in their contract and had been negotiated before the city knew it would face an $8.8 million deficit. Since MEBA declined to hold off on its increase, the city felt it couldn’t single out non-represented employees.

Cosgrove explained the situation with IAFF from the city perspective, saying the city could only offer a 2 percent economic increase, but not in the form of a wage increase. It offered what would amount to a 2 percent increase for the fire department’s wellness plan. The city already has a wellness plan, but the firefighters want to take it above and beyond. Cosgrove said since insurance premiums weren’t as high as anticipated, they could take some of those extra funds and put it into a wellness program. She said that wellness piece went back and forth.

“During the course of those contract negotiations, I was very clear that the 2 percent we were talking about was a one-time payment,” she said.

Cosgrove also felt IAFF shouldn’t coming back and try to match wages with other unions, as it has negotiated its own contract and the unions differ on some of the details they seek for their employees.

“The contract is the contract, you shouldn’t be looking backward for what you did or did not get,” she said. “... As a bargaining agent, at the end of the day, each bargaining unit is responsible for their position and their agreement.”

She maintained that increases to their contracts have been equal to the other unions this year. MEBA won’t have an increase, non-represented employees won’t and neither will public safety.

Cosgrove also differed on the calculations of wage disparity, showing her own chart calculated in dollar earnings. Her document showed each sector had nearly identical actual dollar figure increases.

“The city has generally done a good job of increasing pay to meet cost of living,” she said. “It’s an uncommon year when there isn’t a pay increase.

Cosgrove also made the argument that the fire department was indeed included in that across-the-board wage study increase. She also said the implementation was odd, because it started after the approval date and in the middle of a pay period. Generally, it’s done on time and at the first of the month or beginning of a pay period.

“It was the first year of their (IAFF) contract, why would they walk away with what they think was 0 percent?” Cosgrove asked. “They agreed to it.”

The fact-finding hearing was heard by Anchorage attorney Robert Landau, who served as a mediator. He will write up recommendations on the issue and if the two sides still can’t come to an agreement it goes to the Assembly.

• Contact reporter Sarah Day at 523-2279 or at sarah.day@juneauempire.com.

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Jo MacNamara
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Jo MacNamara 08/04/11 - 06:57 am
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Give them the money

We have it, they deserve it, give it to them.

kpawsuh
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kpawsuh 08/04/11 - 07:18 am
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If everyone else was given a

If everyone else was given a raise, then the FD should have gotten one too.

GJSmith
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GJSmith 08/04/11 - 07:28 am
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Smack the Mole

Negotiating pay with the various union factions is just like the game of hitting the mole - and it can't we won.

dingdong
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dingdong 08/04/11 - 08:15 am
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Cap Spending

Ever escalating costs of public employees will have to end as the economic depression sinks in. The elected leaders of Juneau should start laying off employees when Unions demand and are awarded more and more. Spending on public employees should be capped some way. The private citizen if she has a job, does not have it nearly so good, yet she is held hostage by public unions to pay their wages and lucrative benefits. The time is coming when the taxpayer will demand relief from the oppression of sales taxes, property taxes, etc which are sucked up by public employees. Nothing in here is intended to slight dedicated, hard working public employees but simply to address the fact that the pendelum has swung to far. This is not the time to be asking for more.

BeanCountingZombie
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BeanCountingZombie 08/04/11 - 08:42 am
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Here we go again...

Hey Dingdong if you want to controll spending so much at the expense of employees- let's change up the rules for the Legislature. First if they go into special session and can not prove the appropriate level of work previous...they do not get paid during the special session. Secondly, the raises for legislators and staff should be voted upon by the citizens...no one else gets to determine and approve their own salary and benefits.

If you want to buckle down and stop rediculous spending...at least put that energy in the right direction.

akbrdguru
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akbrdguru 08/04/11 - 08:50 am
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BeanCounter, I believe

BeanCounter, I believe Dingdong has made that suggestion in the past (voting on raises for elected officials). I think we can all agree that the process of elected officials voting for their own pay increase is ridiculous.

Here's a question though. Don't most government employees have annual pay raises built into their payroll system? I'm probably using the wrong term for this, but I know when I was in the military and then with the feds for a short time, we would get a pay raise every year based on your time in service (I think). If these government employees are already getting that kind of pay raise, why are they arguing for another pay raise on top of that?

dingdong
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dingdong 08/04/11 - 09:00 am
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Face the Music

The Dingdong has only tried to point out that current levels of spending are unsustainable. There is a global selloff going on right now in the world markets. All the chaos will make its way to Alaska. Public employees should be grateful to even have a job, courtesy of the Juneau taxpayers. We must all face the music and realize that the spending binge is coming to an end. Austerity will be painful but necessary. If you have a job, work hard and be content. 20 percent of Americans dont have a job or prospects of getting one. Look at the city in Rhode Island forced into bankruptcy when public employees refused to compromise. The taxpayer can barely keep up now. When is the last time you heard a local politician talk about cutting the size of government??

BeanCountingZombie
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BeanCountingZombie 08/04/11 - 09:28 am
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@ Mr. The Dingdong :)

You wrote: "Public employees should be grateful to even have a job, courtesy of the Juneau taxpayers. "
Well that, my friend is a two way street, because private sector employees also have jobs thanks to the population (including public employees) spending money. I agree that spending by our government is out of hand, but there is not an abundance of workers in the public sector despite what you may feel.

And to answer your comment: "Look at the city in Rhode Island forced into bankruptcy when public employees refused to compromise." The reason governments find themselves in trouble (even with Public pension related issues) is generally because the legislators have misappropriated and misused what was essentially restricted revenues...if you stop paying for programs of course they will become a problem. The popular solution to this problem (and one you have apparently bought into) is to blame the employees who are being hurt by this misappropriation.

haily
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haily 08/04/11 - 10:02 am
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Our current economic

Our current economic depression was not caused by Public Employees, it was caused by the greed and abuses going on at Wall Street.

If we dont have unions then the Gov. is the almighty and powerful.

Look at all the $ Sean Parnell has wasted on law suit after law suit. (and Parnell just took a 30K raise :(!)

Look at the money CBJ wasted on fighting the Clean Water Act, setting back 30 years of progress that was put in place to protect public health! Think of all the labor $ that was lost and what it will cost to clean up the mess this will bring on all of us and our health!
Yes things need to change but lets fix the right things.

BeanCountingZombie
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BeanCountingZombie 08/04/11 - 10:04 am
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@ haily

Agreed- Thank you!

eowyn
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eowyn 08/04/11 - 10:50 am
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unions rock

Unions are responsible for giving you overtime pay, two days off, maternity leave, medical leave, child labor laws, OSHA, the list goes on, regardless of if your a member or not. The "wages and lucrative benefits" that I receive are justifiable by my training and expertise. You want to lay people off to save money when we have a budget reserve? Fine, that just decreases the money available within the city, affecting the business that depend on my wages. Oh, and I hope you don't mind waiting the extra time it takes to get fire fighters to put out your house, or the 40 kids per classroom, but we needed to save more money so we could...... save more money! What a crock of poo. Give them the raise!

eowyn
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eowyn 08/04/11 - 10:53 am
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Hailey

Hailey for Governor!

kpawsuh
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kpawsuh 08/04/11 - 11:11 am
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But we will have a nice

But we will have a nice waterfront park and a parking garage and a whale sculpture and on and on and on.....

Jo MacNamara
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Jo MacNamara 08/04/11 - 12:18 pm
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When unions are strong, America is strong

The right to collectively bargain for working conditions is guaranteed by the First Amendment of the United States; freedom of expression.

Why do all you union busters hate the Constitution so much?

I support the firefighters!

akbrdguru
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akbrdguru 08/04/11 - 12:59 pm
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They are already getting

They are already getting annual pay increases. If you read the latest CBA ( http://www.juneau.org/personnel/documents/FinalIAFF2010-2012printready.pdf ), you see they get annual merit increases. Another thing I just found that I thought was interesting in that there is writing in the agreement about signing bonuses.

"...each full time member of the bargaining unit who is employed on the effective date of the contract shall receive $1,000.00 ..."

on top of that, "BLS-EMTI employees who complete at least eighteen (18) weeks of service and who work until the end of the season, shall be eligible for a lump sum bonus equal to $16.00 for each full work week completed."

I'm not against the firefighters or anybody else getting a pay raise, but this talk about them not getting a raise without a new contract is bs. They are already getting pay increases each year.

fireguy
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fireguy 08/05/11 - 02:32 am
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Amariner, how is it a run

Amariner, how is it a run away train wreck. It looks like it is running smooth to me. The career and volunteer firefighters I talk to are happy with the direction the department is going.

Akbrdguru, those items you pointed out were paid out on their last contract, not the one in question. They are not getting increases unless this hearing rules in favor of the union and the assembly votes to fund it.

Every one of those firefighters, career and volunteer work their tails off for the community. They all spend countless unpaid hours helping make many public events happen and fund raising for community organizations.

Give them a raise or don't give them a raise. Most Juneau firefighters are just happy doing the job. The union is just doing their job advocating for the career firefighters. The city is doing it's job advocating for responsible spending. This is why there is a process to answer these questions.

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