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Assembly approves $250,000 for water study

Posted: August 22, 2011 - 10:00pm

The City and Borough of Juneau Assembly approved funding for a water study related to the AJ Mine Monday night, but not before one Assembly member unsuccessfully tried to pass amendments that directly addressed concerns expressed by citizens.

The city proposed taking $250,000 from the sales tax budget reserve to designate to the engineering department to conduct a drinking water study and related issues. Essentially, Engineering Director Rorie Watt will take on the AJ Mine study and some of the funds will be used to pay for either an additional staff person or to pay for extra staff time. A position of deputy engineering director will be created, but it’s uncertain whether that means a new hire or shifting the work burden among existing staff in the city’s Engineering Department.

Watt was asked by Assemblyman Peter Freer on Monday how exactly the water study would transpire. Watt said he envisions coming up with a draft for the study and seeking public comment to determine if the content is sufficient or if there are further items to be studied. Watt said he would do that for every step along the way because he envisions a high level of scrutiny and debate — as he said there should be.

Watt said he didn’t know what a water study would cost, as it would depend entirely upon how long that process would go on. He said he cannot gauge in this case how long that would take.

The Assembly heard public testimony from Tina Brown, president of the Southeast chapter of the Alaska Wildlife Alliance, Guy Archibald, a mining and clean water coordinator for SEACC and Gareth Hummel. All opposed designating the funds, largely because of how non-specific the funding designation was.

Hummel said the issue of reopening the mine was incredibly divisive before, and it remains divisive. He recommended the Assembly drop the entire thing.

Archibald said that if a study is to be done, that it actually have weight and that the Assembly follow its conclusion.

Thane Neighborhood Association president Larri Spengler said the association has no stance on this particular matter, but it is watching all activity with the AJ Mine closely. Spengler said the association’s board is appreciative the Assembly is taking the issue seriously and moving slowly, considering all the issues before pushing forward with proposals or trying to cater to specific mining operations.

Assemblywoman Ruth Danner proposed an amendment to take the mine title and most descriptors out of the ordinance language. She said that many people see this is a move forward explicitly for the mine.

“Members of our community are concerned about clean water,” she said. “They want us to find second source for a water supply and make certain Juneau has clean drinking water. This ordinance should be redirected.”
Danner said that in 1992, under an AJ Mine project study, it states that the city is proceeding with plans to improve water flow for a secondary water supply.

“It seems to me we made this commitment to do the work quite some time ago,” Danner said. “I think it’s important to follow through regardless of what happens with the AJ mine.”

Assemblyman Merrill Sanford disagreed, saying the study needs to be as upfront as possible and it does include impacts on drinking water if the AJ should open.

Danner’s proposal failed 4-3 with Danner, Freer, and Karen Crane in favor, Sanford, Mayor Bruce Botelho, Johan Dybdahl and Mary Becker opposed. David Stone and Malcolm Menzies recused themselves from the entire discussion and action due to conflicts of interest.

Danner then raised a second amendment, seeking to give more assurances to the public the Assembly is not at the “point of no return” and would have specifically set that point. Danner proposed setting that point as identified in the AJ Mine Advisory Committee Report as in Appendix ‘F,’ which lists a rough guideline of events. She said at the point where the city would solicit a junior or major mining company, the citizens should vote on whether to move forward.

Danner said that way the city can get its studies done and see whether the mine is feasible and the water supply safe, and citizens can be reassured that there is a distinct reevaluation point where they have their say.

“We hear from people on both extremes,” Danner said. “We don’t hear from the people in the middle. We need to take a thermometer reading of our community and see whether they’re really for this or against it. We are all in love in one way or another with our community. It’s a wonderful place to raise a family, to live and work. We all have different visions to what it means to preserve what is Juneau. It is very important for us to listen to one another. Listen to ideas that are broad and share them. In order to come to a conclusion that we’ll all be proud of and not afraid of it. I’m afraid without committing to listening to our electorate. If we’re afraid to listen to what the people have to say, it sends a message about the project.”

Botelho phrased the amendment to the ordinance to say that it is “the intent of the Assembly that CBJ receive approval of the voters before it solicits a junior” or major mining company.

Freer asked if it would be a legally binding vote or merely advisory. City Attorney John Hartle said it could be either. Botelho also noted the language in the amendment uses the term “intent” which means a future Assembly would not necessarily be bound to requiring the voter measure, it would still have to come to vote before the Assembly.

Assembly members Sanford, Becker, Freer and Dybdahl said this is not the appropriate place to put such a measure “so early in the game.”

“At this early stage of the game, there’s no reason to do that,” Sanford said. “We’re just trying to deal with whether or not it is feasible, whether or not it is safe for our water system. We have to spend a little bit of money to do that. I just don’t see the need for this right now.”

The amendment failed, with Dybdahl, Freer, Becker, Sanford and Botelho opposed; Crane and Danner in favor.

The Assembly then unanimously passed the ordinance appropriating the funds as initially written.

In other business, Freer called a motion for reconsideration of the Atlin Drive/Mendenhall Loop Road rezoning. It failed 5-4 with Freer, Crane, Danner, and Botelho in favor of reconsideration; Sanford, Dybdahl, Stone, Menzies and Becker opposed. That means the prior action of rezoning the lot to Light Commercial stands.

The Assembly also unanimously approved placing both school initiatives on the ballot — one for replacing the turf at Adair-Kennedy Memorial Park and the other for upgrading the heating system at Auke Bay Elementary to ground-source heat pumps.

• Contact reporter Sarah Day at 523-2279 or at sarah.day@juneauempire.com.

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nottacheechako
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nottacheechako 08/23/11 - 07:56 am
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Great to see common

Sense prevails...by a narrow margin on the AJ/water supply issue.
We are in trouble when Merrill Sanford terms out, and WTH is with Peter Freer? Guy acts like he is Mayor Bruce....brings back memories of when he was serving in the old days....another mouthpiece for SEACC and his bride. Lets get Carlton Smith elected, and I hope Brad can give Jessie a good run as we don't need the Kim Elton clone on the Assembly.

Now Greenies, start your engines!

alaskaguy
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alaskaguy 08/23/11 - 08:26 am
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Inaccurate headline

The Assembly did not vote to spend $250,000 on a water study. The ordinance calls the money "for the AJ Mine capital project." There was never a clear plan given on how the money was to be spent. Mr. Engineer was asked directly how much a water shed study would cost and did not answer. They do not even have a study design yet. They will be back for more $ soon.
Amendments by Danner asked that all the money be spent on the water study, Answer "no". Giving clarity to the Assembly's priorities. Let the public have a chance to vote on developing the AJ, answer "no". So much for the transparent process so promised, but then again who expects the city to keep a promise?

alaskabobc
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alaskabobc 08/23/11 - 08:44 am
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Profits to the public?

Seeing as how UAS could educate miners and mining engineers, perhaps Juneau could sub out the operation of AJ and use that share of revenue to feed the general fund? That would leave the city in control of water quality ALL the time?

kpawsuh
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kpawsuh 08/23/11 - 09:08 am
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They should also have a

They should also have a dividend system for all Juneau residents...

daffy
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daffy 08/23/11 - 09:32 am
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Pro Water, Pro Mine

I would really like to have a second source of clean drinking water and would happily support a mine and the jobs it would bring, provided that first caveat is met.

MagicsJohnson
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MagicsJohnson 08/23/11 - 10:00 am
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We don't want Fleutch Don't Elect A Scofflaw

Illegal fishing

• On Wednesday, Bradley J. Fluetsch, 48, was cited for fishing with illegal methods and taking over the limit of salmon at Sheep Creek.

kpawsuh
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kpawsuh 08/23/11 - 10:17 am
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Get over it, Magic. Word has

Get over it, Magic. Word has it he was collecting dead rotting salmon carcasses to put in his garden. Ooooh! Big violation.

Peace and quiet
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Peace and quiet 08/23/11 - 10:55 am
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AJ Studies

Here we go again...Boy, does deja vu ring a bell?
The Assembly voted for an undefined, therefore openended study of AJ water quality effects, but the specific language is amorphous, to say the least.
AJ owners and developers should shoulder the costs of PROVING, w/ impartial review of their own findings..(read: IMPARTIAL), that they can do what they desire w/ NO ill effects.
The same old arguments from 20 years ago will be reiterated..."Trust Us..it's JOBS"
Thank goodness 20 years ago the Fed. EPA stepped in and said "Uh uh.. No, not the way you're planning.."

al97ct
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al97ct 08/23/11 - 11:05 am
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If CBJ really cared about

If CBJ really cared about water quality then ask them why in the world did they write letters opposing the Clean Water Protection Act (HR 1310)??

HR 1310 amended the Federal Water Pollution Control Act to clarify that "fill material" could not be comprised of waste.

So the truth here is that our CBJ Assembly supports destructive practices and the dumping of industrial wastes into our clean water.

This is back door politics at its worst

sheqelim
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sheqelim 08/23/11 - 11:49 am
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Ms. Danner, you have my

Ms. Danner, you have my gratitude for taking a stand on clean water for Juneau. And thanks too for pointing out that the city has already promised its citizens new water sources and failed to deliver.

Sanford made it clear that he's interested in mine at all costs last night. I'll be glad to see him term out.

daffy
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daffy 08/23/11 - 12:24 pm
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@al97ct

Respectfully, your comment about the "Assembly" not caring about clean water as evident by the fact that they wrote letters opposing the Clean Water Protection Act (HR 1310) in 2009 isn't exactly fair. There are five different members now, and while I agree with you that in the past clean water wasn't a priority, three of the more recent Assembly Members tried very clearly to show a desire for clean drinking water sources at last night's meeting.

al97ct
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al97ct 08/23/11 - 01:14 pm
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daffy I agree with you and

daffy I agree with you and should have been more clear regarding my comment.

Yes its good that M. Sanford is leaving but now we have Randy Wanamaker running unopposed.

MagicsJohnson
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MagicsJohnson 08/23/11 - 01:27 pm
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We don't want Fleutch Don't Elect A Scofflaw

So by the Fleutch rules if there are dying trees on private property it is fine to go and cut them down and take them because they are dying.

Those Sheep creek humpies belong to DIPAC and the fishermaen that put up the self imposed tax dollars to raise them.

So Mr. Alaska Network can just decide what laws he wants to abide by?

Marion Barry was caught smoking crack with a prostitute and said that was no big deal for a guy running for mayor of Washington D.C.

MagicsJohnson
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MagicsJohnson 08/23/11 - 01:29 pm
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Bradley J. Fluetsch can Decide What Laws to Abide By

Illegal fishing

• On Wednesday, Bradley J. Fluetsch, 48, was cited for fishing with illegal methods and taking over the limit of salmon at Sheep Creek.

nottacheechako
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nottacheechako 08/23/11 - 03:43 pm
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magic

you should try something new with your anti Brad efforts....the guy was cleaning the creek by removing dead spawned out salmon for his garden, the eager beaver lawman over reacted and Brad will not get a fine.

Jo MacNamara
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Jo MacNamara 08/23/11 - 05:20 pm
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Not worth the risk

Unless there is a second, viable, cheap water source for all of CBJ, then the risks outweigh any benefit of re-opening the A.J. Mine.

Besides, how much gold can really be left in there???

Open it as a tourist trap.

MagicsJohnson
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MagicsJohnson 08/23/11 - 07:05 pm
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Brad the Stream robber

Unlawfully removing essential nutrients from salmon streams is a good example for a public figure to all. Marion Berry of Juneau.

rainforestgrandma
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rainforestgrandma 09/02/11 - 09:24 pm
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Second water system

How many U.S. cities the size of Juneau or even twice its size have more than one public water system? This does not appear to be the norm. I have to question why this is a spending priority when we have other important community needs unless the Assembly is already focused on reopening the mine. All signs point to the need for a binding decision passed by the Assembly that assures a public vote with full disclosure of the pros and cons as well as the costs of reopening the AJ Mine. It is not too early for the Assembly to embrace public voter participation on an issue that will impact us all and benefit very few.

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