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ARM board struggles with $11B in debt

Posted: December 2, 2011 - 1:04am

A state panel charged with overseeing its retirement plans delved deeply into some distressing numbers Thursday, and looked at some difficult options to come up with billions of dollars to pay its unfunded liability.

That’s the difference between what the state expects to have to pay out in retiree pensions and health care, and what it thinks it will have to make those payments with.

“There’s an $11 billion dollar hole in the system,” Mike Barnhill, deputy commissioner of the Department of Administration, told the Alaska Retirement Management Board.

The board has been asked by Gov. Sean Parnell to make recommendations for how the state should deal with the unfunded liability, and hopes to make recommendations today as it continues meeting in Anchorage.

“Is everyone as shell-shocked as I am?” asked ARM board chair Gail Schubert Thursday afternoon, after hours of work Thursday reviewing spreadsheets of various difficult options.

The Anchorage meeting will be the board’s last chance to make a formal recommendation to the Legislature before it convenes in January.

Among the options the board reviewed were extending the amortization period, recalculating the payoff method and various amounts of cash injections into the retirement trust accounts for the Public Employees Retirement System and the Teacher Retirement System.

Becky Hultberg, Parnell’s commissioner of the Department of Administration and a member of the board, said the more of the debt that is paid now, the less that will have to be paid later. But if we pay more now, she said, that crowds out the possibility of doing other things the state also needs to do.

“That’s the situation we need to try to manage very carefully,” she said.

In Alaska, the board was told, pension obligations are constitutionally and contractually obligated to employees and can’t be reduced, so the state will have to find a way to come up with the money.

“The benefit is basically set in stone,” Schubert said. “You can’t do what Commissioner Hultberg said some other states are doing and basically looking at the benefits and taking some of them away.”

“It’s just simply clear that we’re going to have to pay now or pay later,” said Tom Richards, a board member from Fairbanks.

He said the state needed to address the issue now, while the state had billions in savings and strong finances.

“We do have oil in the pipeline now, and we do have money in the bank,” he said.

Hultberg warned that oil flow through the pipeline had declined 37 percent during the last decade, while spending increased 90 percent.

The ARM Board itself has authority to only make a few of the decisions under consideration, such as how contribution levels are determined.

Other options including state cash infusions into retirement trust funds and raising costs for local governments.

Other decision will have to be made by the Legislature, but board members said not enough has been done so far to keep legislators informed of the growing unfunded liability and the steps that will need to be taken to address it.

“There needs to be a level of understanding before they ever step out on something that is not a new school in their district,” said Commissioner of Revenue Bryan Butcher, a former legislative aide.

• Contact reporter Pat Forgey at 523-2250 or at patrick.forgey@juneauempire.com.

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Ratfishtim
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Ratfishtim 12/02/11 - 08:02 am
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Oil tax giveaway, or making the retirement fund solvent?

The $11 billion hole in the retirement funds, which is constitutionally mandated to provide benefits, just about equals the oil tax giveaway over 5 years that Parnell wants for the oil companies- with no promise of using the extra bucks for exploration in Alaska and hiring Alaskans- and which is not required by the constitution.

Let's see- what should they do? hmmmmm

ps State spending increased by 90% in the past 10 years during the Murkowski, Palin, and Parnell administrations? Fiscal conservatives all!

HagarTheHun
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HagarTheHun 12/02/11 - 08:44 am
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State Retirement

Or, given the present political climate, it might be easy to amend the Constitution to allow the State to screw over people by nullifying it's contracts any time it wants to. Then we could afford to give away our oil so that the oil companies wouldn't have to suffer.

kiki
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kiki 12/02/11 - 09:17 am
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"shell-shocked"?

“Is everyone as shell-shocked as I am?” asked ARM board chair Gail Schubert Thursday afternoon, after hours of work Thursday reviewing spreadsheets of various difficult options."

The ARM board chair is shell-shocked about the amount of the unfunded liability? Seriously? The question needs to be asked as to why she is shocked and what in the world has she been doing as ARM board chair if she hasnt been monitoring this ever-growing problem all along.

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skirkz 12/02/11 - 09:38 am
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Exactly what crossed my mind.

Nobody else is shocked by the mess of retirement unfunded liability. How can the board chair be so naive? This didn't happen last night.

islander
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islander 12/02/11 - 09:38 am
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total nonsence legislature

For at least the last ten year the unfunded amount to the retirement system has been ignored by the legislature. Every year it has been put off into the future. Occasionally there is some cries over lack of funds to pay any of the unpaid liability. Yet there is always plenty of funds available to fill in the pork projects of the capital and operating budgets.

It is time to force the issue and either pay what is due or await the courts to levy the inevitable remedy to the problem. Should it be the court there will not be some obscure fix of maybe next year it will get done. The court could make a really nasty problem for the legislature with ideas on how to pay the debt down.

Alaska is certainly not going to be able to claim it is broke as we continue to fund millions and millions for non-mandated capital projects like new offices for the legislature in Anchorage while the retirement system debt is left to grow and grow.

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hoonahfish 12/02/11 - 09:38 am
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how could they be shocked?

when the "illustrious" senator stedman championed the end of PERS for new employees, it ended any new revenue for the system. the PERS retirement system is now primarily the responsibility of the state. i predict that in about 5 years, the legislature and governor will threaten to raid the PFD to fund PERS, while at the same time offering to amend the constitution to allow the state to default. popular opinion will stop the PFD raid and destroy PERS.

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chipthoma 12/02/11 - 10:12 am
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Time For Yearly Payments

With $15 + Billion in the legislative budget reserve, this debt could be paid off over time with just the yearly interest on the reserve fund. The Governor's staff should come up with a proposal to the Gov. for a bill. It's "put-up or shut-up" time.

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Calypso 12/02/11 - 10:19 am
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The chickens are coming home

The chickens are coming home to roost in all the states with these underfunded public employee pension plans. And it's about time. It also puts the Democrats in a real predicament because that's their bread and butter to fund elections - whether school board, local, state or federal. Union dues are the cash cow.

Look at the garbage Gov. Scott Walker has endured in Wisconsin when he amended the union's contract and now the union thugs are mounting a recall petition.

What are the options in order to fund the pension liability except massive lay-offs or higher taxes?

Don't ya love the back benchers screaming about Parnell and the tax breaks he wants to give oil companies, in hopes that state oil revenues will increase? Annoying...

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wolfmagic2012 12/02/11 - 02:45 pm
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Excellent comments...

Except for the ignorant Calypso. Calypso you need to do your homework regarding pensions and unfunded liability. AND Calypso, Scot Walker was the PRODUCER of the garbage you mentioned. But we won't worry about Walker, because he is complete toast in the Wisconsin recall. It is obvious you know very little about Defined Benefit vs Defined Contribution, Alaska law regarding PERS/TERS, etc, but that doesn't stop you from belching out the anti-collective bargaining rant. What you should do is study the issue, then your comments won't (hopefully) be so ignorant.

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KetchikanJan 12/02/11 - 02:49 pm
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“Is everyone as shell-shocked as I am?”

Frankly, NO!!
The only person gobsmacked by this amazing revelation seems to be ARM board chair, Gail Schubert. This isn't a NEW issue, it was revealed to the media nearly 7 YEARS ago, where have you been?
I'm recommending that anyone planning to retire from SOA anytime soon, consider their option to pull their retirement 100% and manage those funds yourself. Having something is always better than being left with nothing.
The current management team seems a little too sketchy to put any faith in. Would you allow them to handle YOUR investments?

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