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Rental scam alert

$1,000 rent for a 3BR house too good to be true? Yes, say the pros

Posted: December 21, 2011 - 1:05am

If it seems too good to be true, it probably is. That's good advice from Realtors, home owners and the Juneau Police Department when it comes to shopping for rentals in Juneau.

As has happened at least once in the last several years, Juneau rental shoppers are in danger of getting scammed by unscrupulous Craigslist post. Craigslist is an online classifieds service. The website does not police the transactions that take place through its service and recommends buyer beware.

The scam goes like this: Individuals select a house for sale, not for rent, from a Realtor website and copy information about its size, bedroom count address and other information. It lists the information on Craigslist as a house or apartment for rent at unbelievable prices. Sometimes the scammer starts an email account using the seller's real name.

“That should be the red flag,” said Juneau Realtor Debbie White. “If three-bedroom houses are going for $1,800 a month, (renters) are not going to find one for $1,100.

White said there is no reason homes would rent that low in Juneau.

“Our market in Juneau is extremely healthy. Alaska is one of few states with super-duper low foreclosure rate,” White said. “Houses are holding prices here, it’s a balanced market.”

The real damage is done once potential renters contact the scammers. The renters are asked for important personal information and told they will have to wire rent and deposit to Africa — the scammers say they are away on work or some other excuse.

The scams have become more sophisticated.

“These people are getting better at doing their homework,” White said.

A house at 3010 Hamilton Street was recently scammed, White said.

“I even posted notices with the address that it was not for rent,” White said. Somehow people didn’t seem to find those and kept going to the house, knocking on the door, and even peeking through windows.

These scams cause concern for people trying to sell their homes and for the Realtors doing the selling.

“A lot of people are sending emails. I would say, on average, I lose at least 10 hours per month dealing with these scams,” White said. “This is not the first time this has happened, and it happens even if I don’t post the house for sale on Craigslist.”

People are looking for a good deal, White said. “I don’t want to see anyone else get ripped off.”

White said she is frustrated at the waste of time for her and her industry.

“But more importantly, we need to get the word out that these scams are very real. People lose money, and there is little recourse,” she said.

White said she was able to work with Craigslist to remove the fraudulent rental ads.

“By noon on Saturday the ads were taken down, White said. “First thing Sunday morning, there it is again. And it is still on there,” she said Monday.

Craig asked that his last name not be used as his wife’s name was used to set up a fraudulent email account. The account was used to answer requests by renters looking to rent Craig’s house, a house the couple still lived in and were actively trying to sell.

Craig said he found out his house was for rent when a young couple came over to check the place out. “I felt bad for the couple, they were just about to wire the money,” he said.

“It’s a real pain in the butt having people calling the house, coming over to the house,” Craig said. “I have people walk up to the door... ‘wow there’s somebody living here.’”

Craig said he had an easy time shutting down the fake email account. “I called Yahoo, said here is the deal, here is the scam and asked them to look into the account,” he said. It only took three minutes for Yahoo to pull the account.

Craig’s house sold in early December. However, Craig said it was listed for sale for five months. “We could have lost a potential buyer we never met,” he said.

Victims of rental scam have little recourse after the crime. It is better to be vigilant, said Sgt. David Wrightson of the Juneau Police Department.

“I think one of the surest signs is if they want you to wire money Not just on this scam, but any scam,” Wrightson said.

Sending a wire transfer is like sending cash.

“Once you send it you will never get it back,” Wrightson said.

Often these types of frauds come from out of the U.S. Foreign scammers say they can’t meet face to face as they are out of town, traveling on business.

“If you can’t meet the landlord, I’d be skeptical,” Wrightson said. Others "tells" of fraud are an unusual sense of emergency to act, a push to act now. The emails will have a lot of misspellings, misuses of capitalizations. “If they are overly polite but the wording just doesn’t seem normal,” Wrightson said.

Typically landlords will not ask for bank account information and instead do a standard credit check, Wrightson said.

If you believe you have been a victim of fraud, call the police department, Wrightson said. He admits that it is difficult to prosecute this kind of crime. “Most of these things happen out of the U.S.,” he said.

For more information, visit www.ftc.gov or the Internet Fraud Complaint Center at www.ic3.gov or www.rentalscams.org.

• Contact reporter Russell Stigall at 523-2276 or email russell.stigall@juneauempire.com.

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PeytonPlaceAK
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PeytonPlaceAK 12/21/11 - 07:30 am
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Not just out of the country

You're pretty much SOL no matter where the scammer lives, unless he or she lives in the same borough. Police can't pursue this when they don't have jurisdiction, and the chances of getting cooperation between different jurisdictions are almost nil unless you've got some MAJOR pull.

SaltyFisherman
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SaltyFisherman 12/21/11 - 07:32 am
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Get real-estate.

Most rentals in this town are a scam for what is being charged to people struggling to make a living in this town.

Latitude58
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Latitude58 12/21/11 - 08:27 am
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Not worried

I'll be buying my own place any day now. Just as soon as my reward arrives from helping my friend in Nigeria get his inheritance out of the country. It's a lot of money, and I get half!

I plan to buy the Governor's Mansion with my haul. My Nigerian friend says he has a contract from the State of Alaska to be their exclusive agent in selling it. All of the local agents are scam artists, he says. I already sent him a down payment. The place is as good as mine. Can't wait to toss Parnell out of my house...

See? It pays to know important people.

isldandhopper
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isldandhopper 12/21/11 - 08:38 am
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Predatory landlords

Predatory landlords need to have those properties occupied besides it cold outside OCP (occupy craigslist properties)

NorthIslander
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NorthIslander 12/21/11 - 09:24 am
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950 - 3bd

Ha. Funny because I emailed that spammer asking if 950 was for just ONE of the bedrooms (seemed more realistic) and right off the bat he was reversing the role on me trying to get answers when I didn't clarify I was a interested renter. Living in los angeles taught me a few things about suspicious "landlords".

I hope everyone does their research.

akbrdguru
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akbrdguru 12/21/11 - 09:25 am
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If you can find where these

If you can find where these scams are coming from, and the scam was perpetrated via mail, phone, internet, I believe you can get the Feds involved, as this would likely be enough for mail/wire fraud charges.

JNUKara
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JNUKara 12/21/11 - 09:47 am
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Thank you Debbie White, for

Thank you Debbie White, for your diligence!

PeytonPlaceAK
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PeytonPlaceAK 12/21/11 - 09:49 am
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@akbrdguru

You can try to get the Feds involved, but their focus is on stopping ongoing scams, not in helping someone who's been scammed. So, Caveat Emptor because if you've been scammed, you can help prevent others from becoming a victim, too, but you're still personally SOL and on your own.

superhero
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superhero 12/21/11 - 10:13 am
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juneau

anywhere else in the united states, it wouldn't be crazy for a 3 bedroom house to only be 1100... This town is very difficult to live in.

akdebs
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akdebs 12/21/11 - 10:20 am
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@akbrdguru

I contacted the feds. The FCC is the regulatory body. I even engaged a scammer long enough to get an IP address. In fact, more than one was being conducted from that IP.

Because I did not personally lose money, they wouldn't even take a report. There stance is REACTIVE, not PROactive. That is why I sent the information in to the Juneau Empire. DW

arktik27
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arktik27 12/21/11 - 01:08 pm
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Lattitude......

um.... that Nigerian money is supposed to go to me, according to a lengthly e-mail I received back in July. I already claimed it and have my lawyers in Indonesia settling my claim.

However, I'll rent you MY new old Governors mansion for 1100.00 per month?

;o)

MSchaffer
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MSchaffer 12/21/11 - 02:55 pm
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Rental scams can be avoided

There are so many scams out there - some of which are easy to spot and avoid, and other which are much more sophisticated. I run a business called CheckYourLandlord.com that helps renters avoid scams, as well as foreclosures and other risks. We provide an easy and free service to allow renters to find out if their rental home has any notices of default filed against it, as well as the ability to find additional information about the property and landlord. Renters often don't realize that signing a lease is a large financial commitment, with long term effects. You can check out our service to help you avoid rental scams at www.CheckYourLandlord.com.

Latitude58
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Latitude58 12/21/11 - 03:00 pm
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arktik

My Nigerian lawyers will be talking to your Indonesian lawyers...

In the meantime I'm sure we can both agree that we need to evict the current squatters out of our mansion.

I just signed a lease to rent the Capitol for $1,100. You'll have to cut me a better deal than that.

ladydulcinea
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ladydulcinea 12/21/11 - 06:57 pm
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Hey Debbie!

Where's my peanut brittle this year??

akdebs
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akdebs 12/21/11 - 07:16 pm
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ladydulcinea - Call me

I am running behind on deliveries! Need office help desperately. Lily now stays at home with her little one. New gal starts tomorrow....

Who is this? LOL :-)

akdebs
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akdebs 12/21/11 - 07:17 pm
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Duplicate

oops

Tat
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Tat 12/22/11 - 12:00 pm
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When will people learn?

Two things - if they are asking to wire money (even within the US, but especially overseas) its a scam. They are getting more and more sophisticated with the story. One that i got - reasonable rent price (for Juneau), the guy asked for my information and told me that he is in Anchorage, he is renting the property for his brother that works on one of the ferries (even gave me the name) and is away on a trip. I thought that it was reasonable, so I said that first I need to see the place and I would wait for his brother to comeback. Instead, i got an email with bunch of pictures (one had a palm tree i could see through the window), and asked to wire money. I forwarded the email to law enforcement.

Second, if its too good to be true, it is a scam.

So do not ever wire money. Period. Do not cash anyone's check and wire money.

classwarrior
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classwarrior 12/22/11 - 12:57 pm
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$1100?

That's what I charge my dog to live under a piece of plywood I leaned against the garage here in Juneau. But a 3br house for $1100, sure I can see that...

Sync
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Sync 12/22/11 - 06:42 pm
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uhh roughly 1k for a 3bdr is

uhh roughly 1k for a 3bdr is not too good to be true, says realists. If your 3 bdr is higher then 1.2k then it's likely a scam.

$1150 here for years. No need to move on, too many scams in town.

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