Given what I have heard about OCS, I am suprised it hasnt been done intentionally with a loaded one. Not advocating anyone get shot, but man I have heard some over the top stuff done by these folks. It goes without saying though that if this family has OCS in their lives, this incident will not do anything to help their case. OCS will be demanding the kids be removed and the guy being prosecuted to the full extent. Once OCS is in your life, they will never leave until you have been stripped of your children. They dont make any money for keeping the kids with their parent, only for putting them in foster care.

So the guy has a DUI conviction. Child abuse issues. And he uses the "I was drunk" excuse for his firearm stupidity.

Lock em up. Confiscate the guns. And get the kids out of that situation.

To suggest that OCS workers somehow are to blame, based on something you heard. To imply they get commission for removing children, inaccurate and cruel. No one deserves that. I have never experienced OCS overstepping, understepping possibly, but not overstepping. Does that mean it does not happen? No. Just not my personal experience. And those who I have heard speak ill of their experience, based on my experience with them. I take their words with a bag of salt. Bigger concern here is a drunk with a gun.

Control.

I have no personal experience with them. I do everything I can to keep the State from entering my life.To suggest that OCS doesnt make any money from taking kids is a joke. They get funding based on caseload and activity. If they generate no cases, they will be viewed as not necessary. They are also given federal funding to pay for that foster care program. Who do you think pays for foster parents?

My experience was from watching a person I know very well go through hell at the hands of OCS. They were low income, "trailer trash" if you will. But they were very nice people who had huge hearts and loved their kids. They just made really stupid choices with their finances. They got on assistance. Once the state had a toe into their home, they barged right in. Regular visits showed the house was not kept clean enough. They started scouring the house to make sure it was clean enough. Then the kids didnt have enough toys. Well they had donated a bunch so that the house would look clean. So they got more toys. The food wasnt acceptable. So they changed that. Finally the Dad had enough of the game and said "BS". He was "arguementative". Hmm did he yell at the kids? Was he abusive to the wife or kids? Next was mandated counseling for him, with the threat of removing the kids if he didnt. He went but grudgingly. He started to be more adversarial in the meetings with OCS. OCS told the mother she had to divorce her husband or lose the kids, so she did. He still lived in the house though so they told her she had to move, preferably to another town. She moved out of Juneau. End result? The state took the kids and put them in a foster home with alcoholic foster parents and the daughter ended up being molested by the foster parent. Much better eh? I personally watched this one unfold. I have been told similar stories, but did not witness them. Am I anti govt? If they operate like that, yes! Do thry do some good? Yes! But I have definitely heard and seen some real abuses of power. Should we default towards the childs safety? Yes! But we should also respect the sanctity of the family.

Agreed, Blackdog. I have just as much vitriol for overzealous, troopers, JPD, EPA, mall security or any other regulator. I temper it with when called on it, the supervisor says that sometimes they may get a little overly or even sound mildly apologetic. They usually don't. They site gut instinct, or officer safety, or the childs safety, whatever lame excuse they can dream up. Sorry, I was a cop. I know a bad one when I see it.

It is a tough Job, we ask them to do, and if they "Screw the pooch: doing it, they get massive News coverage, but that is about it. That being said, It has ALWAYS been my opinion, that these folks, "Need to have their Personal Skin in the Game". We, as Citizens, give them this Power, over us, and when they Overreach that mandate, they need to be held, Personal Responsible, for their actions. It should be the same for LEOs serving Warrants. If they get the wrong Address, or the Warrant was gotten under False, or Misleading Information, then the LEO needs to be FIRED, and Prosecuted, ASAP, Period. No BS, just Facts.... This would stop all the No Nock, Swat Team, nonsense, at the Wrong Address, or on Unsubstantiated Facts, that we hear about all the time. It just isn't enough, for these folks to say "Oh we are terribly sorry, we messed up". If they Mess Up, they are GONE, Period. We give them this Power over us, and if they use that power, Inappropriately, then they can't, and should NOT, be Trusted, with that Power, ever again. My Opinion.... YMMV....

Then stop doing it

To all the gun kissers who bashed me on the last article I commented on regarding guns, your silence is deafening.

This is EXACTLY the type of person who should never be allowed to ever own a gun.

As I see it, his actions accounted to:

1. Reckless endangerment -- multiple counts (for the OCS employee and each person in the room);

2. Assault with a deadly weapon;

3. Intimidation of a government official;

4. Disorderly conduct;

I am not anti-gun. I am anti-stupid-people-owning-guns.

And this is a PERFECT example.

As such, this person deserves at least a decade in jail, take his kids away, and never allow him to ever own a gun again.

And if he is found with one after his incarceration, he should be put away for life. He is an obvious danger to society.

Did you read how he screamed in court when it was suggested that his guns be taken away from him? His guns are probably his binky. Guns define the manhood of many, many manhood-lacking people.

Had I been the OCS worker and he pointed a gun at me and pulled a trigger, I would have taken it away from him, bashed him in the face with it a few times and called the cops. Self-defense.

I hope he gets sent away for a very, very long time, then his kids go elsewhere, and that he is never allowed to ever own another gun again.

I will now entertain comments from the gun kissers who will say "Aw shucks. He didn't mean nuffin'. He said it was unloaded, and unloaded guns never hurt no one. And he really wasn't that drunk. Gun control means usin' BOTH hands. I mean, who ain't never pointed an unloaded gun at somebody and pulled a trigger? It's a favorite game wit my kids."

This is mah rifle,
This is mah gun,
This one's fer huntin',
This one's fer fun, and pointin' at the people whut done visit me from thuh state.

OK... Lets get this straight: I'm Michael Schwab's son, and my sister and mother were there (obviously). I talked to BOTH of them, and both of them said that he did bring out the hand-gun, but didn't aim it at her leg and pulled the trigger. Also note that my dad was having a lot of seizures during the month this happened, so he's been taking seizure medication and he isn't himself when he is on his medication. On a side note... Loving the grammar in this article: "Schwab told an police officer".

Dear people, and ANYONE who has read this article about MY dad. This is MY dad here, I am his one and only daughter. This article was completely uncalled for, and it really bugs me that this Emily Russo Miller lady, feels like she had to write an article she doesn't have all the detail about.
For all you commenters who believe its "right for him to be put in jail" or whatever, you're wrong. You are wrong in the regard of not knowing AT ALL what happened that night. All you see here, is what happened in Deanna Komars point of view, and whether you believe it or not, you have to have the common sense to know that there is TWO sides to every story.
My dad has alcoholism, and that is considered an illness, and I believe it. And since this night had happened, in December... I don't see the need for an article to be written about it, when this happened about 3 months ago.
Since then, my dad has been going to Rainforest Treatment Center and getting counseling, and getting the help he needs to take me back into his custody. And he's trying really hard, so for him to be punished, or believed to be, for something that has happened months ago, and since then, he's been getting better and better, SHAME on you. My dad has had a crystal clean record until 2011, and he's 53 years old.
But I'm not saying what he did was right, but people make huge mistakes. My dad does keep his guns locked in his gun cabinet. This was a mistake.
My dad did not aim the gun at Deanna, and my mother, myself and my mother's friend are witnesses. Shame on Deanna Komar, I hope she sees this comment also.
And for all you who posted those ignorant comments, shame on you.
I doubt any of you live perfect lives, where you have to deal with no big problems. Don't be pointing fingers at MY family when your hands aren't clean. Mistakes happen, and owning up to it is what real people do, unless you're a person with a rod shoved up your ass. I'm not taking this crap from anyone. I hope all of you see this, and I hope you feel guilty. I have real feelings, I am a real human being, and so is my father. People make mistakes, no one was hurt. Seeing these comments made me SICK. Shame on you.

My dad is a stickler also about guns. When I was in 6th grade and went to the rifle range with him, he would constantly yell at me to be careful with the rifles. Also, note in my 1st comment, that I said that my sister and my mother said that he placed the handgun on the table, not aimed it at Ms. Komar's leg and pulled the trigger. Even on his medication, he wouldn't do something as stupid as that.

Now that I'm wondering why Miss Komar did not simply get up and walk out of the house...perhaps OCS needs to do some retraining? If she really was fearing for her safety, it doesn't sound like her actions support her accusations.

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