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Foot traffic only on Shattuck Way?

Planning Commission passes plan to close street to cars

Posted: April 26, 2012 - 12:11am

The Juneau Planning Commission heard a proposal put forward by the owner of Miner’s Mercantile Building to block Shattuck Way to parking and through traffic, making the narrow street pedestrian-only.

Public comment was hostile to the proposal. The loss of parking was the main concern.

Dan Glidmann, property manager for the Charles Goldstein building, testified in opposition to the closure of Shattuck Way. He was concerned by the loss of parking.

“There are lots of time where the parking spaces are full,” Glidmann said. “I’ve worked downtown for 37 years. That counts for more than two years of study.”

Shattuck Way provides “valuable short-term, on-street parking,” Glidmann said.

On-street parking is critical for downtown businesses, Glidmann said.

Goldstein owns an entire city block on the corner where Peer Amid Beads is located.

“We singlehandedly brought back Seward Street,” Glidmann said.

Glidmann also said it was premature to decide on Shattuck Way before Sealaska finishes building its proposed Sealaska Heritage Institute building.

The Miner’s Mercantile remodel was ill-conceived, Glidmann said. Snow removal should have been considered beforehand he said.

Paul Thomas, owner of Alaska Cache Liquor and member of the Downtown Business Association, opposed the proposal.

“To take away seven spots is ridiculous when we’ve been fighting for it for years and years,” Thomas said. “I personally resent the fact that it is being put forward as a city project. That is not the case.”

If the proposal goes through, the City and Borough of Juneau should be compensated for the land value of Shattuck Way, Thomas said.

As a downtown business owner, Thomas said, parking is key. “It’s not disposable parking.”

Sealaska wants to be a good neighbor, Sealaska spokesperson Lee Kadinger said. “We understand our neighbors’ desire to increase business by closing Shattuck Way,” Kadinger said.

However, Sealaska Heritage Institute’s building, expected to begin construction in March 2013, could pose a problem. Specifically, the provision to keep Shattuck Way open to pedestrian access during construction.

“Constructing in downtown Juneau is very difficult,” Kadinger said.

It is expensive to build on a small footprint, he said.

“So we are using every little piece of land,” Kadinger said. “One option is closing sections of road. We wouldn’t want to limit our options.”

“We feel it is a risk to the public, to tourists,” Kadinger said. “We would want to provide support in some way. We just have concerns.”

Sealaska also plans to improve its parking lot as well, Kadinger said. Planning for SHI’s building is about 95 percent complete, having spent $1.5 million on architectural work, he said.

Greg Chaney, city planning manager, said the Sealaska build is a separate issue from the long-term issue of a pedestrian throughway.

Commissioner Jerry Medina asked about the costs incurred by the city due to damages to the mercantile building from snow plowing.

“I see the concern for losing parking, but it is a very narrow street,” Medina said. “I don’t often go down that way, when I do I regret it.”

Richard Harris of R.H. Rentals LLC and owner of the Miner’s Mercantile Building said the reason he originally requested the conversion was due to the damage city snow plows have done to his building.

“The damage is pretty extensive. The city recognizes there is a liability there,” Harris said. He said he is not going to fix up the building to have it damaged again.

“I don’t think I’m getting some huge financial benefit,” Harris said. “It’s a release of liability for the city.”

He also said the closure to cars would result in the loss of five parking spaces, not seven, Harris said.

“The biggest concern that I have is the issue of the Sealaska Heritage Building and construction,” Bennett said.

Medina said looking at the difficult situation from a city standpoint, it was decided in the 1980s to cover Shattuck Way and make it pedestrian, he said.

“I’d be in favor of closing it,” Medina said.

Front Street was also mentioned as a pedestrian precinct.

“My concern with leaving (Shattuck Way) open, it continues to be a hazard,” Commissioner Dennis Watson said. However it’s a little premature to go ahead with the closure right now, he said.

“We should wait until we see the final product Sealaska is putting together,” Watson said.

He proposed closing the street only to parking for now.

“There are good points on both sides of this,” Commissioner Dan Miller said. Miller said if the city will lose the spaces during the Sealaska build, the city could use this time to try out closing Shattuck.

“We’re really experimenting,” Miller said.

Commissioner Nathan Bishop said the city should plan its pedestrian access better than the Shattuck proposal.

“I don’t think we’re there,” Bishop said.

Bennett said the proposal in its current form is a “half-baked project.” A pedestrian way needs to be carefully considered for safety, lighting and all the things that are necessary, she said.

Commissioner Nicole Grewe said though Sealaska has a plan on the table, it is up to the city to make long term planning of the look of an area.

The motion passed with Bennett voting against. It now proceeds to the City and Borough of Juneau Assembly.

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• Contact reporter Russell Stigall at 523-2276 or at russell.stigall@juneauempire.com.

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akman59
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akman59 04/26/12 - 07:21 am
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Close all of Juneau

Keep franklin, 6th, and main for traffic. Make the rest of down town a park. Cover the whole thing and give it to parks and rec. Put in moving sidewalks and have the mall of Juneau. Think of how many sculptures we can buy if we had all that area to put them.

Latitude58
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Latitude58 04/26/12 - 07:41 am
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Other places

Go to other towns that have blocked off key downtown streets and made them pedestrian only. They're great - hugely popular. Completely changes the feel of the block. Not sure if the proposed plan is the right one - I'd suggest going bigger.

Maybe close it off seasonally, after Legislative session is over.

Move the Glory Hole out of downtown, into a nicer building. Close down the liquor stores that exist only to serve the chronic inebriates downtown. Same for the worst of the bars. Turn those spaces into parking lots.

alaska55
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alaska55 04/26/12 - 09:07 am
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So it's OK for the City

To remove parking spots...........try and do that as joe public.............I can see it now one road/alley at a time instead of an overall plan.........................

Photonut
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Photonut 04/26/12 - 09:31 am
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Close liquor stores? How

Close liquor stores? How about we close your place of business. How about we leave it up to the public to determine if you have a job or not? What right do you have to suggest that the government close someone's business? Like them or not, they are legally licensed businesses, pay taxes and provide jobs for your neighbors.

Howdy
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Howdy 04/30/12 - 05:44 pm
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This is a really really bad idea...

The City is giving away 7 parking spaces?

Howdy
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Howdy 04/30/12 - 05:45 pm
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...as far as that other thing goes.

...don't forget, we're all neighbors.

dglsmama
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dglsmama 04/26/12 - 09:41 am
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Latitude58

I doubt all the liquor stores and bars downtown want or enjoy these downtown chronic inebriates. I buy my husband cigars at one of these downtown liquor stores. Other folks buy daily newspapers. Your blanket assumptions are childish.

Howdy
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Howdy 04/30/12 - 05:43 pm
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Not sure what blanket assumptions you're reffering to?

This City and Borrough can adopt or amend CBJ code to address community issues.

cozmos
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cozmos 04/26/12 - 10:53 am
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Boy "Howdy"

Boy "Howdy" I don't know where you came from but every city has inebriates in their respective "downtowns." That doesn't make it right to close businesses that sell liquor. The owners are not responsible for another person's actions or decisions. Get off the kool-aid, dude.

isldandhopper
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isldandhopper 04/26/12 - 10:59 am
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so

if plows are damaging your property go after the cbj

El_Boorba
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El_Boorba 04/26/12 - 11:25 am
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Wrong Answer to the Problem

If the problem is that snowplows are damaging the building, why not close the alley to parking November through March?

Parking is not so hard to find in the winter and the plows will have room.

I am all for more parks, but that alley as pedestrian park would not work for all of the obvious reasons. A HORRIBLE idea that I am sure will pass.

Calypso
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Calypso 04/26/12 - 11:28 am
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A little off topic but I

A little off topic but I found this on a blog from a Scottish lawyer living in Sweden -

"Here in Sweden, there is a cultural concept known as 'Lagom': Swedes pride themselves on this idea. Basically it sort of means all is for the best, everyone acts in the best interests for society in general. It's really an insidious method of State control, in my view, and has been exploited by governments for many years. At its most basic it means that Swedes don't complain about much. They put up with things. Often to a staggering degree. Businesses get away with almost anything, treat customers with ill-concealed contempt, overcharge for everything, ignore complaints or criticism and generally behave appallingly."

Sounds surprisingly like the ideology of the left - "We know what's best for you. You'll get used to it."

Do we want America to become Sweden?

Howdy
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Howdy 04/30/12 - 05:41 pm
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@cosmos

Actually, I didn't suggest closing liqour stores. Where did you see that?

skirkz
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skirkz 04/26/12 - 12:27 pm
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It's an alley...

...has always been an alley and will always be an alley. Tourists tend to shy away from alleys. Why do you think PeerAMid moved from Ferry Way? Should we close that street down as well? Why not just pave Franklin and Front with yellow bricks with little Munchkin islands down the middle and signs on both ends that say "Must show out-of-state identification to enter." ?

Latitude58
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Latitude58 04/26/12 - 12:28 pm
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Liquor licenses

Liquor stores operate under a liquor license granted by the City. These licenses come with a bunch of conditions, and can be revoked for many reasons. They come up for renewal regularly.

For instance, would you site a bar or liquor store right next to a school?

Here are just a few of the many considerations for why a license might not be renewed.

(1) The character and public interests of the surrounding neighborhood;
(2) Actual and potential law enforcement problems, including the proximity of the premises to law
enforcement stations and patrols;
(3) The concentration of other licenses of the same and other types in the area;
(4) Whether the surrounding area experiences an unacceptable rate of alcohol abuse or of crime or
accidents in which the abuse of alcohol is involved;

Any of these apply to our main downtown area? The community gets to decide, not the liquor store or bar owner.

kiki
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kiki 04/26/12 - 04:02 pm
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I dont understand

Hasnt that building been there a long time and why is this all of a sudden an issue? If the building is being damaged by plows, shouldnt that be an issue between the City and the building owner to resolve. Can the City use one of their smaller plows through that area and can the building owner put up a tougher siding on the building? Plus even it that street is closed to car traffic, but pedestrians are allowed, dont they still need to plow it in the winter? This makes no sense. Why does this owner have the right to request any street be closed and if this is allowed, whats to stop other building owners from being able to request the streets next to their business be closed for various reasons? At this rate, with building owners being able to dictate street closures and A&P announcing they are closing due to high rent prices, they might as well put a sign up at the bridge intersection saying "locals not welcome". Im with Glidmann on this.

Nic
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Nic 04/26/12 - 09:00 pm
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Shattuck will stay open

Not to worry. I and my contacts will see that it stays open. We need the parking; we need the traffic option. We can adapt to the problems with snow removal. Planning Commish - you blew it on this one, and you'll be overruled.

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