Some northern Lynn Canal communities don’t like the ferry schedules they’ve got this summer, but ferry officials say those schedules are linked to congestion in Auke Bay.
“It’s put a little crimp in our style, and in our economy,” said Stephanie Scott, mayor of Haines Borough.
Last summer the northern port cities of Haines and Skagway had daily or near daily ferry service, and want to see that happen again.
Alaska Marine Highway System Officials say that may be possible, and that this summer’s schedules were in part a test that may not work out.
Lynn Canal, between Juneau and the two northern ports, is the state’s most heavily traveled ferry route, but this summer there is not a ferry every day and on one day there are two.
That’s partially because of the number of ferries that sometimes need to call in Juneau at the Auke Bay terminal, said Mike Neussl, deputy commissioner for marine operations for the Department of Transportation and Public Facilities.
Neussl told the Marine Transportation Advisory Board Tuesday that schedule changes made in Lynn Canal were intended to solve some problems, but may have created others and probably should be changed. That can’t happen this summer, however, he told the board.
“It seems every turn we take we solve one problems and find two others we need to work on,” Neussl said.
The problem arose when the ferry system tried to figure out what to do when a vessel arrived each Monday morning from Bellingham in the early morning hours.
“We need to have a place for it to tie up,” Neussl said. “If the Malaspina, LeConte and the Fairweather are all berthed in Auke Bay, there’s nowhere for the Columbia to tie up,” he said.
The solution to that the Auke Bay congestion is what triggered the problem now facing Haines and Skagway.
“We need to vacate one of those berths, and they way we did that this year was to have the Malaspina remain overnight in Skagway on Sunday night,” he said.
Cancelling that Sunday trip south is the crux of the problem for both Skagway and Haines, he said.
“We’re going to try to fix that for next year,” he said.
He said ferry system planners have told him they’re close to a solution. He hasn’t seen it yet, but he hopes to have daily service in Lynn Canal again.
“That requires some vessel jockeying,” he said, and may cause other changes elsewhere.
Scott praised the ferry system for addressing the problem, as well as supporting important community events in Haines.
She said the change to the schedule was also to see if it would improve ridership out of Juneau, and see what that did to ridership.
Scott said they capitalized on the region’s frequent sunny weather with special events such as the Kluane Bike Race, the Klondike Road Relay and the Southeast State Fair. Those events were well served by last year’s schedule, which allowed visitors to attend the events and head back on Sunday.
“I’m hopeful that next year we’ll solve that problem and get back to an even keel on that,” Neussl said.
Board member Mike Korsmo of Skagway apologized for not noticing the significance of the schedule change himself when the change was made last year.
Getting more ridership out of Juneau seemed like a good goal, he said, but he hadn’t realized that it might bring some problems with it.
“I felt a little bit like I didn’t do my homework,” he said. “I kind of missed that.”
Scott said they thought the same thing at the time, and hadn’t protested the change last year either.
“We love the ferry system, and we rely on it,” Scott said.
• Contact reporter Pat Forgey at 523-2250 or patrick.forgey@juneauempire.com.





Comments (20)
Add commentWhy not...
...a dedicated N. Lynn Canal ferry out of Sawmill Cove in Berners Bay? That would shorten the distance to Haines by over 1/3. The fast ferry could get there in under 1.5 hours, the slow boats in around 3.
For pedestrians, operate a shuttle to take them to the main terminal. For trailers and freight that don't have a driver, run one or two ferries a week to the main terminal.
This would shorten transit time and fuel costs. Driving to the end of the road is a lot faster than transiting that distance on a ferry. We've invested a lot of money in improving the 'out the road' road - let's take advantage of it.
Inventive
That's a clever idea, Lat!
How about driving?
Build the road!!!
Comet Beach
Build a new ferry terminal at Comet Beach.
Why not? And while you are at it...
Great idea Lat, it would cut down on congestion at Auke Bay. Ferry terminal designs also ought to incorporate some planning to permit reutilization of the terminal components in the instance where a road might be extend farther - in short to permit reuse of some terminal components.
And as far as those who might complain about driving a long distance to a more remote ferry terminal. How about Capital City Transit extending its service and hours for interconnections to the ferry system both at Auke Bay and the suggested terminal?
CCT seems the logical entity to provide interconnections to other transport modes. CCT's moving assets are federally subsidized and since many argue the ferries are transit, then it might be a good fit.
But the Best Idea is to...
Build the Road!
If we have parking space issues
Why not just park a ferry into your local seafood processing facility?
Haines, Skagway, let them
Haines, Skagway, let them stew in there on juices. Leave the schedule as it is. They didn’t want a road built which would improve transportation tenfold and benefit everyone.
However, let’s build the road and be done with it already.
I like the idea of building
I like the idea of building additional docks Lat. Where is Comet beach though?
ferry docking
Why not have the Columbia berth at the downtown juneau ferry ramp like it did in the beginning of the system
Comet - above Point Sherman?
Comet was shown on some of the older charts. I guess I'm dating myself a bit. Wasn't it a remnant of a previous mining operation? In any case it is north(west) of the Kensington mine if my memory serves me correctly.
That is why I suggested a moveable marine ferry terminal facility. Build on the advantages of a road as it is extended northward on Lynn Canal.
Building the road
Is still building to another ferry terminal from my understanding. Please correct me if I'm wrong, not trying to start a battle!
Lat, I love your idea! Hopefully someone at DOT will take it into consideration.
Comet Beach .....
is above (north ) of Pt.Sherman. Comet mine is just up the hill to the east of the beach...on the west side of Lionshead Mountain.
Seward City was the name of the community that was located at Comet Beach when the mine was in full swing.( early 1900s'.)
juneauguy......The CBJ owns the downtown ferry terminal. The AMHS used to pay docking fees to CBJ in order to use that terminal. That dock is more valuable as a cruise ship dock and the very small staging area for vehicles is a disaster for loading/offloading ferries.
Milspec,
Right on! Thanks!
Hmmm....
Well why not build the road....... Well how about that the road in question already claims how may lives a year... There is no emergency services located in it's near vacinity, and any accident that happens out there can take quite some time to respond too. Also you dont get the best cell service in most places out there.
So you all ask yourselves why do we not build out there, well one main reason is due to the value of human life. Why would DOT want to send local passengers, commercial companies, tourist, our school groups, ect, out a road that is dangerous to drive.
Also think about staffing the facility. People would have to make a long transit to work everyday and in the winter time we dont even plow past sunshine cove. Berners Bay is past that. Again, another saftey concern, for employees and the general public. To have a facility out there would take more then just putting up a terminal. This is not a decision that is easy to make and Alaska Marine Highways does a very wonderful job providing transportation in one of the most challenging areas in our counrty.
Besides AMHS's mission is; To provide safe, reliable, and efficient transportation.
Building a road is an option, but whats it worth........
Here's a better alternative,
Here's a better alternative, one that won't require building a new dock, second facility OR extending the road:
Right now, the Malaspina spends eight hours parked on a dock, from 11pm to 7am. So, how about have the Malaspina run to Hoonah over that time? Hoonah can get increased service (which they've been crying for), the LeConte is freed up for other trips (Gustavus can certainly use it), and Auke Bay is open for all the other mainline vessels. Yes, more fuel used and higher personnel costs, but you can have daily, consistent Northern Lynn Canal service as a result.
@CubanB
CubanB...have you ever been outside of Juneau? With a moniker of "CubanB", I'm assuming you haven't spent your entire life within the confines of the City and Borough of Juneau.
If that's the case, have you ever been on ANY country or rural road. Most are waaaaaay away from emergency services and have no or very little cell coverage. Point #1 of your argument is flawed.
As for your point #2, there are hundreds of thousands of workers in Manhattan that have daily commutes of an hour or more.
I would've thought that your post was sarcasm, but alas, you are just being ignorant of actual real world roads and lives.
bigtall
I think your missing my point. What we have now is a road out to Berners bay that has a launch ramp and camp ground. People go out there if they want to. If DOT builds a terminal out there, then people HAVE to travel out there. See the difference. DOT does not want to be held responsible for any accidents that happen when its passengers are forced to drive to a secluded location. There are many reasons we do not build the terminal out there, I'm only touching on one.
CubanB:
I think you’re missing the point here. Build the road all the way to Skagway then maybe have a short ferry run to Haines problem solved. Leave the terminal at Auke Bay and use the other ferries to travel to other out of the way cities. Also, have you ever driven across Canada? Or even Texas for that matter? In Canada I have driven for hours without seeing a sole, it’s rather nice.
Correction
Milspec - sole is a fish, soul is a person.
Doesn't make him wrong.
@lingling - Milspec is still probably correct. I'm sure they didn't see a sole during their long rural Canadian drive, either!
That, and the road needs to be built all the way to Skagway!