The City and Borough of Juneau heard an appeal Wednesday of a proposed gravel pit and rock crusher in the Montana Creek area.
No decision was made at the hearing, however Hearing Officer Michael Lessmeier, an attorney with Lessmeier and Winters Lawyers, LLC, said that though he has 45 days to make a decision, he doesn’t expect his decision to take that long.
Peggy and Rich Mattson and fellow homeowners in the Montana Creek area filed an appeal to overturn a Planning Commission decision to approve a rock crusher proposed for their neighborhood, a D3 zone.
The CBJ Planning Commission approved Coogan Construction’s permit application SGE20110003, A Conditional Use Permit for sand and gravel extraction activity along Montana Creek Road at the West Glacier Borrow Pit Lot 1 on April 10.
Lloyd Coogan, a partner in Coogan Construction, has said the entire permit for sand and gravel removal and screened, crushed material rests on approval of the crusher. The demand for crushed rock is not high enough in Juneau to run a gravel pit economically without onsite crushing, he said. What demand there is, he said, would result in approximately 100 hours of crushing a year.
The appellants had three main arguments against the crusher.
Attorney for the appellants, Bob Spitzfaden of Gruening and Spitzfaden Attorneys at Law argued that the crusher would not be compatible with the surrounding neighborhood, CBJ code allows a crusher in an area zoned D3 only if it is used to crush rock for a public road and used on site and the crusher would be a primary, not incidental, portion of Coogan Construction’s sand and gravel operation at the site.
Spitzfaden said the west Mendenhall Valley area has transitioned to a more residential area since 1984. Therefore a rock crusher operation is no longer compatible with the surrounding neighborhood, he said.
Additionally the CBJ 2008 Comprehensive Plan does not call for gravel extraction in the west Mendenhall Valley, Spitzfaden said, it calls for residential uses. Though the area has been home to a rock pit and crusher, the existing pit is expected to play out sometime around 2017, he said.
Spitzfaden said the planning commission had to adopt a number of conditions to the Conditional Use Permit to deal with the incompatibilities between the crusher and the surrounding neighborhood.
“That is not say that 20 or 30 years ago, when there were a lot fewer residences out there, that there could have been some co-existences,” Spitzfaden said. “But things change.”
This particular crusher is not permitted in the D3 zone, Spitzfaden said. He said a crusher in this zone is only authorized if used for public road construction and the crushed sand and gravel is used on site, according to CBJ code 4.150.
The rock crusher is not incidental, insubstantial or an accessory to the gravel pit operation, Spitzfaden said referring to CBJ code and what he said was a relevant Supreme Court decision.
Coogan Construction, he said, is not marketing the raw sand and gravel, it is selling crushed material.
“If you can’t have an operation without the crusher, it isn’t insubstantial, incidental or relatively minor,” Spitzfaden said.
Hearing Officer Michael Lessmeier said he did not believe the Supreme Court case, which refers to junk cars, relates directly to the rock crusher.
Jane Sebens, deputy city attorney testified on behalf of the Planning Commission.
She said the commission approved the rock pit and crusher as an accessory use in a D3 zone.
“What the record here shows is seven reasonable minds, reviewed and deliberated on the evidence, they applied a reasonable interpretation of the law to that evidence and they reached a unanimous, well throughout decision,” Sebens said.
Sebens said the appellants’ briefing contained “gapping omissions.”
“One outstanding error,” Sebens said, “…I would challenge the appellate to show us where the Planning Commission found that the rock crusher is the primary principle use taking place on this site. That is a pretty significant mischaracterization of the record.”
Sebens said the planning commission knew it could not approve the permit if the crusher was a dedicated crusher. It is not impossible to haul away the rock to be crushed off-site, but the economics don’t allow it, she said. While the rock crusher could be locates somewhere else, “the gravel is where it is,” Sebens said. Coogan Construction, however, is not allowed to bring rock onto the site to crush, she said, as it would make the crusher a principle use and not an accessory use.
Historically, CBJ has considered rock crushing as an accessory to sand and gravel permits, Sebens said.
Sebens said CBJ has found that for temporary public road projects, the Conditional Use Permit process was too much. A permit for use of a rock crusher for these types of road projects, she said, can be had by department approval.
The Montana Creek area is a neighborhood where there has been sand and gravel operations, “because that is where the sand and gravel is,” Sebens said. Contrary to the appellants’ argument, the CBJ comprehensive plan calls for sand and gravel extraction before residential uses, she said.
“Nobody wants gravel extraction in their neighborhood,” Sebens said. “The good news is it isn’t for forever.”
“The Planning Commission believes that the appellant did not meet the burden of proof,” Sebens said. “The appeal should be denied.”
Coogan’s was represented by attorney Dan Bruce with Baxter, Bruce and Sullivan.
Whether the rock crusher is an accessory to the gravel extraction does not have to do with the value of the crusher to the operations, Bruce said, it is the amount of its use. The permit is for sand and gravel extraction, he said, not only for a rock crusher. “Mining the gravel and the rock, screening it, washing it and then crushing a portion of the materials that are removed,” Bruce said. The crusher is a “small portion of the operation.”
The conditions imposed on the permit does not represent a failure of the process, they help minimize the impact of this use that may be otherwise inappropriate in the neighborhood, Bruce said.
“Sand and gravel is recognized as a basic component for the development of the community,” Bruce said. “The more expensive you make it the more expensive development becomes. That is why you crush things on site.”
“There is no other conclusion that there is substantial evidence to support the findings of the planning commission,” Bruce said.
• Contact reporter Russell Stigall at 523-2276 or at russell.stigall@juneauempire.com.





Comments (19)
Add commentAnd the good ol' boys take
And the good ol' boys take care of their own...
I really don't know how
I really don't know how people can stand to live in the valley, all the burning that goes on there and all the noise, now this. Whats next?
CBJ get your act togeather and do right by the people that live near this problem and pull the freaking permit.
I think this is just really awful.
Lloyd Coogan is a great and valuable member of our community
Lloyd has done a lot for our community and perhaps is one of our better members.
It is easy for you community organizers to think about some negative things that may or might happen someday. You actually should be studying Lloyd to see how well a real worker can productively do something positive for and in the community.
We need more people like Lloyd who rolls up his sleeves, risks and invests his own capital and gets a lot of good things done.
He will stick to his word. And we all will be the better off for his work here.
So just take the time to learn how to do things right. See how Lloyd is doing things. Be humble enough to learn.
Rick,
I'm confused here. Are we to voice our support for this rock crusher, against the cries from those living in the affected area, out of shear sympathy for a hardworking businessman in town?
Are the economic endeavors of Lloyd Coogan more important than the livelihoods of Juneauites living in the area?
Personally, I don't think we need to make character judgments on this issue. Either the law allows for a rock crusher in zoned D3 or it doesn't. The wording says it doesn't. The interpretation by our law department says it does. The appeal will no doubt be awarded in favor of Coogan, afterall, he's "a great and valuable member of our community"...
The City and Borough of
The City and Borough of Juneau hears the appeal, how could this possibly be free from bias? Good lord.
Too funny. Seems like the
Too funny. Seems like the BS's fan club is out in full force.
This is much ado about nothing....
"What demand there is, he said, would result in approximately 100 hours of crushing a year."
100 Hours PER YEAR.
Um that's less than two hours a day one day a week.
Seriously. These folks have their panties in a twist over nothing.
gmpatton,
simpe solution: request the rock crusher be placed in your backyard. Case closed. No panties bunched. If someone doesn't want a rock crusher, don't force them to have one. The only one getting a benefit is coogan yet everyone in Montana Creek is forced to put up with the rock crusher.
Let's make a deal and find someone who wants the rock crusher in their own yard. Coogan doesn't want it in his yard. You sound like a reasonable person. I bet you would like to have an industrial rock crusher in your yard with the permitted operating hours of 7 am to 7 pm every day.
Simple and reasonable, no?
cheesypoof...
Do you run out of your house at night and chase down the plow or grader operator when they make a bunch of beeping in the middle of the night?! I bet you don't, possibly because you're tired, or maybe because they are doing a service while they make a berm and a bunch of noise.
Running a crusher for 100 hours a year to make some rock in an active gravel pit that was around before you or your house is not too much to ask. It's called life. You have to break a couple eggs to make an omelet. You should put a sign up in front of your house and tell the city not to sand your section of road. It's horrible stuff made by a rock crusher.
gmpattons example isn't a real world situation either. They will only run the crusher if they can keep it running all day, then be done. It uses a ton of fuel and costs man hours to feed so it will be a get it done asap process.
Coogan wouldnt be asking if
Coogan wouldnt be asking if it was just for 100 hrs.
My neighborhood needs
Sand, gravel, and crushed rock. Yes you may set it up in my back yard if it will make it cheaper than buying and hauling from lemon creek.
We are not talking about a rock quarry like stablers point. What do you suggest they do with the rocks larger than what people want to buy? A gravel pit is noisy. A few days or weeks even of crushing is not that much noisier.
I'm still curious
Who benefits besides Coogan and why was the permit approved if the operation failed to meet the criteria? Was this just a quickie backroom decision to please a hard working man or does the city need the crushing operation? Too many gray areas here along with a questionable permitting process IMHO
And...anyone else think our Mayor over reacted to questions about the process?
Peggy and Rich Mattson are
Peggy and Rich Mattson are serial whiners. In fact, if ANY contractor is asked to do work for them, be careful, & be sure to bid in the b*tch factor.
salmon guy,
there's a reason the law prevents a rock crusher from being operated in residential areas. You can try to justify this, but the law is what it is. You can try and reason that 100 hours is not very much. You can tell us all that we need crushed rock. You can even try to defend Coogan as a "honest hard working businessman just trying to make it in today's rough economy."
Do whatever it is you want to try and defend the decision of CBJ. Do it. Just don't expect to make a substantial case, because all you're doing is deflecting, and it's obvious to most. The decision here is based on a law that has been in place for years. The decision was made based on the interpretation by our law department and that the specific wording according to them was in fact open to interpretation. In my honest opinion, having read the law, is that when a law states a rock crusher can not be placed in D3 unless it's specifically for the development of that residential zone, then it's NOT open to interpretation. Pretty cut and dry.
You don't have to live in Montana Creek to be against this rock crusher. You have to be able to sympathize however, as there's a reason the law is in place. How many rock pits are a stone's throw from large subdivisions in Juneau? It's too bad that the pit is in such close proximity to so many Juneau residents. This is not a reason to ignore those residents' pleas, however.
Justify it however you want.
Just remember, it makes your case look incredibly flimsy when you try to convince me how much I need a rock crusher in my backyard. Because trust me, I know I don't. Just like you do.
cheeesypoof...
I know I'll never convince you that you're NIMBY attitude is a reason development is so expensive in this town. Your house and neighborhood were built by this same kind of operation. They make noise, but their product is a necessity. They didn't choose where to find a rock source, it is where it is. I'll remind you that the gravel pit was in operation before you or your house were there. I should be mad at CBJ that they let them build homes so close all those years ago because now we have you making a stink over a week long operation each year.
Next we'll be hearing that the airport is too loud...
Who benefits?
It will save anyone in the area and farther out. Over $120.00 per hour just for truck time to haul. The people of the valley, back loop, and out the road save over $100.00 per load. Dirt is cheap. Getting it delivered costs money. There are few gravel deposits available to the public. If you live out north douglas, or in lemon creek you have a gravel pit near your property.
The consumer benefits. Want affordable housing? Save 5 to 10 thousand dollars in trucking to develop a building pad.
The entire "Ive got mine, forget you" attitude needs to give way to a sense of community. Someone had to listen to noise and smoke while your house was being constructed. Your turn.
akman59, salmon guy,
seriously, you guys aren't convincing anyone in Montana Creek that they need a rock crusher near by. The permitted use of the crusher during development of the subdivision is allowed under CBJ law. The whole "I've got mine, forget you" is exactly what's going on here. You guys don't live in Montana Creek and you guys have zero sympathy for those who do. Not to mention you have zero understanding of the real issue:
THE LAW
General code:
49.65.200 Extraction permit required.
(a) The use of property for the excavation, removal or other extraction of stone, sand, gravel, clay or other natural deposits and formations, including the processing of the materials, may be authorized in any district only under a conditional use permit issued by the Commission under the procedures set forth in chapter 49.15, article III, as modified by this article. (Emphasis Added)
City Code 49.25 Art III, 4.150
the allowable use of a rock crusher in land zoned D3
“Must be in conjunction with an approved state or municipal public road construction project, and must be discontinued at the completion of the project. Road construction by private parties for subdivision development is excluded except as provided in this title. Rock crushed on-site must be used on-site. Crushing shall be limited to 8:00 a.m.—5:00 p.m. unless the director authorizes otherwise.”
City code specifically prevents this type of use. The general code, which should not take precedent over specific codes, does, in this case.
"I know I'll never convince you that you're NIMBY attitude is a reason development is so expensive in this town"
HAHA, seriously, get off the soap box. If you want a rock crusher in your backyard get one. Don't tell me I need one. I respect your property. Where's the favor in return? And your reasoning that my attitude is the reason development is high in Juneau is laughable. You're really getting somewhere with your rock-solid arguments...
akman, the crusher was permitted for use during development of the subdivision. That's why the law specifically allows for it. Montana Creek residents put up with a lot. Glacier traffic. Gravel pit traffic. Gun club traffic. Rifle range traffic. Montana Creek traffic. Have a little respect for those who do live around the places people like you take advantage of. Instead you preach about attitudes and how for some reason you think yours are properly adjusted. Re-read your posts. Then think it over. You have no respect for others.
Tell you what:
I live in Lemon Creek. So do AEL&P's generators. So I'll support the Mattsons and the Danners when they take a stand against AEL&P running their generators when Snettisham goes down.
They are loud and smelly, and they ran constantly for several weeks when the avalanche took out that tower 4 years ago. And that's just the Danners.
Did you hear me complaining?
Oh, and just to head off half of you, I bought my house before those generators were installed. I don't recall being asked if it was OK.
Mikey,
Lemon Creek resident since the 60s. That's impressive. I feel your pain and I understand it's a nuisance to put up with those generators and their noise. I'm not aware of the legal issue that faces AEL&P there. I know the federal government gave AEL&P the location back in the 60s to build it's Lemon Creek Plant. There's also a large amount of industrial property back there, not to mention a landfill, etc., and I'm not sure to what proximity the residential zones are in regard to the Lemon Creek facility.
I do sympathize with you and appreciate your putting up with the noise and smell.
As far as this Montana Creek rock crusher goes, the issue is that the CBJ allowed the permitting of a rock crusher in direct conflict with CBJ code. This is an issue where the public has appealed the permitting process of CBJ. If the legality of Lemon Creek generators is in question, I suggest you bring it to the attention of a legal expert.
I don't think it's fair to justify the placement of a rock crusher like this just because the rest of us put up with noise too. Heck, Montana Creek already puts up with a shotgun range and a rifle range. The issue is the legality, and if AEL&P is illegal in its Lemon Creek facility, or if the airport (I'd help salmon guy, even though he wouldn't return the favor) is illegally placed, I think it's our democratic obligation to make right on the matter. Don't sell yourself short, or anyone else for that matter.