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John N. Marvin Jr. talks with public defender Eric Hedland at the start of his trial in Juneau Superior Court on Thursday. Marvin is charged with the shooting death of Sgt. Anthony Wallace, 32, and Officer Matthew Tokuoka, 39, of the Hoonah Police Department in August, 2010.

Emotional testimony from family of slain policemen

Posted: October 25, 2012 - 10:04pm  |  Updated: October 26, 2012 - 12:06am
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Haley Tokuoka, wife of slain Hoonah Police Officer Matthew Tokuoka, testifies during the trial of John N. Marvin Jr. in Juneau Superior Court on Thursday.  Michael Penn / Juneau Empire
Michael Penn / Juneau Empire
Haley Tokuoka, wife of slain Hoonah Police Officer Matthew Tokuoka, testifies during the trial of John N. Marvin Jr. in Juneau Superior Court on Thursday.

The jury trial for a man accused of murdering two police officers in Hoonah began Thursday with emotional testimony from family members of the slain officers and the then-chief of the Hoonah Police Department.

It was the first time the jury and public heard the details surrounding the August 2010 deaths of Officer Matthew Tokuoka and Sgt. Anthony Wallace, who were gunned down in Hoonah on Aug. 28, 2010.

John N. Marvin Jr., who was arrested after barricading himself in his house for about 36 hours after the shootings, is on trial for two counts of first-degree murder, one count for each officer shot dead. He could be facing life in prison if convicted.

The first witness the state called to the stand was Haley Tokuoka, the widow of Officer Tokuoka.

 

Haley’s story

Haley recounted her story to the jurors, beginning hours before the shootings occurred. She recalled that she, her husband and their two children, now ages 4 and 8, spent the day fishing and crabbing since her husband didn’t have to go to work until 11 p.m. After a fun day, they ate supper as a family, along with Haley’s sister, brother-in-law and parents.

After dinner, Haley, her husband and children drove to a dumpster in front of a liquor store about 10 minutes after 10 p.m. to discard the scraps, so it wouldn’t attract bears at her parents house. They parked in a lot and got out of the car as Matthew prepared to put the trash away. But that never happened.

Haley testified that across the street, some 50, 60 feet away in a row of houses, she saw a light on in John N. Marvin Jr.’s home. Being from Hoonah, a small town of around 800 to 900 people, she’s known of him all her life and knew whose house it was. She saw something alarming. She said she saw him repeatedly slamming what looked to be a metal, rectangular ammo box on the ground in his home.

She called her husband over and told him what she was seeing. He advised her not to draw any attention to them, and they agreed to hurry up and leave after they put the trash away.

Unexpectedly, they saw a police car pull up behind them, and heard cop car lights and sirens. It was Sgt. Anthony Wallace, who playfully was trying to get their attention and pretending to “pull them over.” He was in good spirits since his mother, Deborah Greene, had come up from St. Petersburg, Fla., to visit him. Greene was doing a ride-along with her son while he was on duty that day.

Wallace stepped out the car and introduced them to his mother. During that conversation, Haley said she told Wallace about Marvin’s seemingly bizarre actions, and her husband advised Wallace not to draw attention to the scene.

Wallace, however, took out his flashlight and shined it towards Marvin’s home, which prompted Officer Tokuoka to scold him. 

“My husband said, ‘Tony, I just told you not to draw attention. What the f--- are you doing?” Haley testified.

Embarrassed, Wallace went over to talk to the Tokuoka’s kids in the car while the couple continued chatting with Wallace’s mother.

Wallace was standing with his back to the street, leaning into the car with one foot on the running board, saying hi to the kids secured in car seats in the backseat. He was like an uncle to them, Haley said.

Then, they all heard a gun shot. Then Wallace saying, “I’m shot, I’m shot.”

“He just crumbled to the ground,” Haley said, “He just crumbled.” 

Officer Tokuoka immediately ran to Wallace and moved him to safety out of the line of fire behind their personal vehicle, a Chevy truck. Meanwhile, Haley dashed to the driver’s seat to drive off to get her kids to safety. Haley said she tried to back up (she was parked behind a loading truck at the liquor store) and her husband screamed, “Stop the f------- truck, you’re going to run him over.”

Once Wallace was in a safe position, Haley drove straight to her parents house and called 911. While on the phone, she could hear the police radio in the background: “Second officer down.”

“I knew that my husband was shot,” she said, weeping in court.

She saw him not much later at the local clinic, where both he and Wallace were taken. At first, she wasn’t allowed in the E.R., then a nurse allowed her to see him.

“He had been shot twice, I thought it was one time, I didn’t know it was twice,” she said, saying he was shot in the chest. “The whole time, you could see that his belly was filling up with blood, and his breaths were getting shorter and shorter. And I told him I loved him, and he was able to mouth, ‘I love you.’”

She left the room so doctors could keep working on him. The physicians assistant soon after told her there wasn’t much more they could do. Doctors left them alone, while they kept working on Wallace, who died the next morning at Bartlett Regional Hospital in Juneau after being transported by a Coast Guard helicopter.

EMT Christopher Budke told Haley he would keep pumping oxygen through a mask until she was ready.

“Chris had his head and was pumping oxygen,” she sobbed. “I had his hand. And I was just singing to him telling him it was OK, and that I was going to take care of the kids, and that I didn’t want him to hurt anymore.”

Under cross examination on Thursday, Haley testified she didn’t know which direction the bullets came from, or who the shooter was.

Haley said she wasn’t able to go home for days, and camped out at her sister’s house. By then, police had already pinned Marvin as the prime suspect and surrounded his home. Haley said she watched the stand-off from her sister’s front porch. The stand-off eventually ended peacefully with Marvin surrendering when police threw tear gas canisters into his house to get him out.

 

Debbie Greene

The first person to get on the police radio the night of the shootings is a woman frantically screaming, “OFFICER DOWN. OFFICER DOWN.” It is Deborah “Debbie” Greene, the mother of Sgt. Anthony Wallace.

Greene, a nurse who now lives in Louisiana, testified Thursday that it was her first time visiting Hoonah, and her son had arranged for them to do a ride-along. They first drove to the end of the island, then back. That means they would have already driven past Marvin’s house in a marked police vehicle twice within a half an hour or so.

When they first passed Marvin’s house, Greene said she happened to see a man looking out of the window. She said something aloud about it to her son, who told her not to worry about it.

After her son had written a traffic ticket to a slow-moving car, her son noticed the Tokuoka’s in the parking lot of the liquor store, and pulled over to say hi. After about a 5, 10 minute conversation, the gunshot rang, and her son fell to the ground.

Greene, sitting in passenger seat at the time, said, “I saw Tony on the ground, and he hollered to Matt, ‘Matt, I’ve been shot.’ And Matt was by the door and Haley, and then Matt told Haley to get the f---out of there, and she ran to her car, and we were both screaming for her to stop because she was going to run Tony over. So she stopped, and he pulled Tony out from under the truck. And I was on the radio. ... I crawled over (to the driver’s seat), grabbed the radio and called it in.”

She got out of the vehicle and ran over next to her son and Officer Tokuoka who was kneeling over him.

“I held my son’s hand, and he asked me if he had been shot in the head. So I checked his head for him and I told him no, I promise you, you’ve not been shot in the head. And Matt was right there. I turned to look at Matt, and he got two shots in the chest.”

Wallace had been shot in the back and in the leg, prosecutors said.

Under cross-examination, Greene told the jurors she did not know who the shooter was, or where the direction the shots came from. She said she originally thought they were coming from the dumpster, which is opposite direction of Marvin’s house, because she thought she saw smoke there. She could not say for sure how many gun shots she heard, maybe three, maybe five.

 

The eye witness

William J. Wells, who has lived in Hoonah for the past eight years, was smoking a cigarette inside his apartment from the open window when he saw all the commotion below. His apartment was located about 100 feet away from the shootings.

When called to the stand by the state, Wells testified that while watching and listening to the incident, he heard an officer say, “Please stop, John, you don’t have to do this.” He said he could not tell where the shots were fired from.

 

The police chief

Hoonah Police Department Chief John Millan, who had only been on the job for 10 months, had just gotten out of the shower and was drying off when he heard a woman’s voice he didn’t recognize come over his police scanner at home, advising officers were down.

He rushed to the scene and was the first emergency responder to arrive there. He saw his officers lying on their backs on the ground, side by side, each unable to move but with eyes still open.

Still in the “kill zone,” he drew his pistol and asked Tokuoka where the shooter was, and he was unable to get an answer. He then asked Wallace.

Millan testified that Wallace lifted his arm up to point, but Millan mistook that for Wallace wanting to hold his hand. 

“He had big hands, he pushed my hand away, and then he said ‘John.’ And I said, ‘What?’ And he made the motion again. And then I looked over to where he had directed his hand.”

Is that the time you saw some lights coming on at Mr. Marvin’s house?” District Attorney David Brower asked.

“Yes, sir,” Millan said.

“The confusion was I have the same name as the suspect,” Millan elaborated under cross examination with public defender Eric Hedland. “So it was not clear to me who Officer Wallace was referring to. When he held his hand up, I thought he wanted me to grip his hand for reassurance. He was holding his hand up to point, which is why he pushed my hand away. When he said ‘John,’ I said ‘What.’ And then, when he pointed, I realized he was no longer saying John as in Chief John Millan. He was pointing toward Mr. Marvin’s house.”

The chief quit his job in April of last year due to the emotional distress and survivor’s guilt, he said. He also suffered a heart attack last year. The two officers who were killed were the only full-time paid officers in small police department, which also has a reserve officer.

It was the worst day of his life, he said.

“I just couldn’t take the emotional toll anymore,” he said. “Hoonah is such a small town. Every day, I’d go out for a cup of coffee, or take a walk or go out to Icy Strait Point, I’d have to drive by that spot. Every day. And I didn’t have any family there, and as much as I cared about the people there, the two officers that I had known well were killed.”

 

Prior police contact: Motive?

In opening statements Thursday, District Attorney Brower said that Tokuoka and Wallace arrested Marvin in 2009, which caused Marvin to dislike them.

According to defense attorney Hedland,  on Aug. 15, 2009, police responded to a trespass call, that someone had entered someone’s home. The allegation was that Marvin walked into a woman’s home unannounced and shut the door behind him. The woman called for her husband to come down while she asked Marvin to leave, which he did. He apparently acted strangely and walked out of the house, and by the time police tried to contact him, Marvin was back at his house.

Hedland said some incident ensued that left Marvin “Tased and bloodied and jailed.” The police originally sought mental health help for Marvin as a substitute for the criminal proceedings, but that ultimately didn’t work out. Marvin ended up being charged with criminal trespass and assaults against each of the officer, Tokuoka and Wallace. Those charges were dismissed.

Hedland said that incident did not happen in a vacuum either: “Apparently there was some concern by Officer Wallace, a sort of standing concern, about Mr. Marvin, and they had a series of run-ins, and I expect you’ll hear that generally those were instigated by Officer Wallace.”

Hedland told the jurors, “Mr. Brower said that Mr. Marvin was angry at these police officers for prior treatment, that I understood was a suggestion as motive. What you will find out is that the police officers had a problem with Mr. Marvin, and people made an assumption that given the prior dealings with Mr. Marvin that Mr. Marvin was the person who shot the officers.”

Millan also testified about previous contacts police have had with Marvin. In the spring of 2010, Millan and Wallace went to Marvin’s house to give him a notice to keep off school property without permission. Marvin acted “irate, hostile and profane,” Millan said.

“He said I know who you want me to believe you are, but I know who you really are: you’re that [filtered word] from Juneau,” Millan said, saying Marvin started screaming for him to get off his property, which they did. Wallace did not say anything during the encounter, Millan said.

Millan also happened to be in court the same day Marvin was in court for having expired plates in early 2010. Millan said after court, Marvin came up to him and said he was Russian royalty, and that he has diplomatic immunity.

Millan noted another instance, Marvin came to the police station to express concerns about the police department.

Another time, police received a report that he was making a person feel uncomfortable at a local grocery store. Millan responded to the call, and Marvin to leave, which he did politely, Millan said.

It was “common knowledge” that Marvin had mental health problems, and while he was known to be weird, make people uncomfortable and to have inconsistent behavior, Millan said under cross-examination that he had never observed Marvin being violent before.

That testimony goes along with the narrative put forth by the defense that Marvin was suffering from a mental disorder that was growing increasingly worse, and that he was deteriorating over time, becoming more isolated and more “survivalist” and feeling more “under siege” from police.

 

What’s to come

Sitka Superior Court Judge David George, who is presiding over the trial, said the trial will continue Friday, Saturday and into next week. Brower said he is hopeful that he can call all his witnesses by Tuesday. Then the defense will have their turn to present a case.

• Contact reporter Emily Russo Miller at 523-2263 or at emily.miller@juneauempire.com.

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Latitude58
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Latitude58 10/25/12 - 11:06 pm
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Painful

This is just hard to even read.

The testimony from Haley and Debbie and Chief Millan... heartbreaking.

If Marvin had mental health issues and a long history of problems with the local officers, then to have them pull up in front of his place with lights and sirens and flashlights...maybe that was the trigger that made this nutcase snap, thinking all of that attention was directed at him, when it wasn't.

No one wins in this scenario. The human condition can really suck sometimes.

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chiko89 10/26/12 - 03:43 am
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sad

im sitting here reading this and crying...first of all my hearts and prayers goes out to both soldier for serving in hoonah and to their family, may god be with you all at this time of pain...(tears)...if i am related to ya'll i will have to end that mr. marvin. this is so sad where im from is blood for blood, death for death...i hope that the person who did this will rot in hell....

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Rangeronetwo 10/26/12 - 04:28 am
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“Tased and bloodied and

“Tased and bloodied and jailed.” Millan said under cross-examination that he had never observed Marvin being violent before. Pigs don't like it when people fight back. The animals are thieves hiding behind guns.

AKjustice
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AKjustice 10/26/12 - 05:08 am
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Heart wrenching

Our prayers and thoughts to the families and friends in this case. There are no winners here today.

May God have mercy on John Marvin Jr. because I think the jury may to send him to hell for life.

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West4ver 10/26/12 - 05:15 am
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Tased and bloodied

It sounds like violence was probably involved in the tasing and bloodying....doesn't it? If this is true then there should have been more details revealed in your report.

AKjustice
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AKjustice 10/26/12 - 07:01 am
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@JE

What of this tasing? Please dig into this and bring us the back story. Did these officers assault Marvin? Why was he tased? Did he resit arrest, fail to comply with instructions, what?

Dig into this...

Latitude58
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Latitude58 10/26/12 - 07:28 am
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@AKjustice

The testimony does raise a few questions, doesn't it? What seemed like a open & shut case of premeditated murder, now has a bit more nuance to it.

I'm sure the law enforcement investigators will be able to tie the weapon back to Marvin and make a very strong case that the shots came from him.

But here's this mentally imbalanced guy, 'trapped' in this small community with few support resources for his problem, feeling that the authorities have it in for him...and then this event triggers him. It kind of paints a different picture of the situation.

I'm not defending the guy, but this is why we have trials, to bring the whole story out into the open. I've gone from wanting to string him up to feeling a bit more conflicted.

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Alaskastu 10/26/12 - 07:38 am
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Nope, even in the worst case

Nope, even in the worst case of police abusing power does that excuse or even explain his actions.
Lat? Conflicted? He murdered two officers without warning, in my eyes nothing they MAY have done changes how I feel about this man paying for his crime.

Latitude58
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Latitude58 10/26/12 - 07:56 am
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No excuse

Not even suggesting it.

But was this murder premeditated?

Initial media coverage made me think this guy had stalked these officers and shot them in cold blood. Now I'm starting to think that this is a situation where a mentally broken man was inadvertently triggered to do something drastic.

Still murder. Still needs to receive justice, for the families as much as him. But it's just a slightly different perspective now.

The world is gray.

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El_Boorba 10/26/12 - 09:37 am
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breaks your heart

breaks your heart

(and rangeronetwo... ugh. i used to hate cops, then I realized that 99.9% of the time they get it right. we only hear about the 0.01% of the time they get it wrong. people who hate the cops probably keep doing things that give the cops reason to interect with them on a professional level. regardless of your feelings, NOBODY deserves to get murdered like those two were. nothing they did justified that violence.)

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really 10/26/12 - 09:51 am
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I don't think it matters if

I don't think it matters if this guy planned and thought out this act or it was a knee-jerk reaction to the officers pulling up outside his house. Nothing excuses his decision to pick up a rifle and gun down two people/officers who were standing on the other side of the street from his house.
Wether or not this can be judged as "premeditated" it doesn't matter. It is what it is. The absolute ambush of two unsuspecting officers by a man from a house across the street who the officers were not even attmepting to contact.

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austino 10/26/12 - 10:31 am
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@really @chiko89 @latitude

@really: Premeditation: In a court of law, it matters.

@chiko89: Time to grow up a little bit, man. Otherwise, your future holds only pain.

@latitude: Premeditation is a gray area too. There is no "minimum planning time" needed to establish premeditation. It is subjective.

AH HA
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AH HA 10/26/12 - 10:54 am
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Interesting

Yesterday we heard testimony indicating that at least one of the officers involved was well aware that Marvin was both very unstable and also very dangerous. We also got a clear indication that he knew he was standing in front of Marvin’s house and that Marvin was unstable enough that for him to have even been there was dangerous. This evidence came from one of the states witnesses. When we start to hear from the defense it is a near certainty we going to hear a lot more about that.

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fairreader 10/26/12 - 11:15 am
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Regardless

of Mr. Marvin's competency, he should never be free to walk the streets again. Reading this story was very heart wrenching. My heart goes out to the people who had to bear witness to this horrific scene. If it had such a strong effect on me to simply read about this, I cannot imagine witnessing such a travesty.
The article did bring up a lot of question as to Mr. Marvin's mental state. The bottom line is this man murdered well meaning law enforcement officers. This small community will be forever affected as a result of his actions. A respected Police Chief has left his position and is suffering. What this man did destroyed so many lives. I just pray that regardless of the jury's opinion on his mental state that everyone agrees that he is an absolute danger to society and should be locked up forever. At least the state will attempt to medicate him. Some will complain that the taxpayers are paying for his care, but I would rather contribute to having him locked up versus having him untreated walking the streets.

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U537 10/26/12 - 11:46 am
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ugh

I dont like this... clearly he is not unstable they monitored him for 2 years now and is ruled stable... he indeed was waiting for the right opportunity to strike back.. and the tasing it clearly states he had charges that matt n tony actually dropped (heard from haley that they cut him a break) n the person calling the officers pigs... I didnt know tony but matthew my uncle was an honorable man.. how dare u insult such a heroic character. Anyways reading these c omments are so frustrating sometimes... it hurts to read this and see haleys face... matthew n her were soulmates and this man robbed our family

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dartbucks 10/26/12 - 11:57 am
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I see that just since last week ...

Mr. Marvin has discovered the ability to speak to his attorney. Remarkable.

AH HA
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AH HA 10/26/12 - 11:59 am
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@Fairreader

I think it's a foregone conclusion that Marvin is going to stay in prison for many many years to come no matter what. It's also pretty certain that he is the person who committed the murders.

I guess what I keep pointing out is that this is the second time that this exact sort of thing has happened in southeast in the last five years. The death toll currently stands at six.

In both cases, the fact that the guilty party was violent, mentally unstable and very dangerous was something that the state had known for a long while and had failed to take any reasonable action based on that knowledge.

AH HA
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AH HA 10/26/12 - 12:03 pm
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.

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kpawsuh
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kpawsuh 10/26/12 - 12:24 pm
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Unfortunately Ah ha, they

Unfortunately Ah ha, they have rules. They cant just lock people up for being deranged. They have to have proof of laws being broken. And it has to be a major enough law to lock them up good. If you put them away for a month or two, you just made it worse. Now they hate you and the system even more. Crazies are the worst to deal with. There is no winning.

fairreader
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fairreader 10/26/12 - 12:59 pm
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Unfortunately

The state is limited in their ability to act prior to a mentally unstable person becoming violent. It is similar to the laws that limit the ability for law enforcement to act when someone is being harassed or stalked. Most times nothing is done to protect citizens before it's too late. Had the officers had the right to protect their community and ultimately, themselves, maybe this could have been prevented.
Hopefully our lawmakers can navigate the focus towards important matters, such as giving law enforcement the ability to compel people who pose a danger to our communities to get the help they need. It would be wonderful for the peeping Tom's to get hard time before they have a chance to prey on our children. If we limit out LEO's in their ability to take preventative measures we are all but allowing people like Mr. Marvin to commit these type of horrific crimes.
My daughter's father was in Hoonah to assist in the investigation. It was a horrible crime. Competent or not, he is a danger to our communities. I don't even think Eric Hedland is questioning that fact.

AH HA
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AH HA 10/26/12 - 01:29 pm
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Ever Heard of Title 47?

Sec. 47.30.705. Emergency detention for evaluation.

(a) A peace officer, a psychiatrist or physician who is licensed to practice in this state or employed by the federal government, or a clinical psychologist licensed by the state Board of Psychologist and Psychological Associate Examiners who has probable cause to believe that a person is gravely disabled or is suffering from mental illness and is likely to cause serious harm to self or others of such immediate nature that considerations of safety do not allow initiation of involuntary commitment procedures set out in AS 47.30.700 , may cause the person to be taken into custody and delivered to the nearest evaluation facility. A person taken into custody for emergency evaluation may not be placed in a jail or other correctional facility except for protective custody purposes and only while awaiting transportation to a treatment facility. However, emergency protective custody under this section may not include placement of a minor in a jail or secure facility. The peace officer or mental health professional shall complete an application for examination of the person in custody and be interviewed by a mental health professional at the facility.

AH HA
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AH HA 10/26/12 - 01:40 pm
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The problem with Title 47

If the person under evaluation can show any small shred of sanity the Mental Health Provider will invariably release them as soon as the evaluation is completed. Because of this most cops generally won't bother. You just wait until he does what you know damn well he is going to do and arrest him.

Unfortunatly all to often that gets us where we are today.

kpawsuh
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kpawsuh 10/26/12 - 01:55 pm
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It would be the rare officer

It would be the rare officer that would willingly open himself up to the potential fecal storm that such an action could initiate...

Do the Right Thing
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Do the Right Thing 10/26/12 - 03:13 pm
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Sad all around but I've heard a number of disturbing accounts

Mental health issues should not be considered a get out of jail free card. He was deemed well enough to stand trial. He also has 100% taxpayer funded healthcare through SEARHC, including mental health so he has no excuse not to get the help he supposedly needs.

It also really disturbs me that one officer's wife testified they were illegally dumping their garbage in a liquor store's dumpster with their kids in the car. It's is doubly wrong for a police offier break the law and take money out of the store owner's pockets but he used the police car to do it and had the kids in the car to teach them how its done.

In another version the wife also said they had the lights and sirens on "for fun". Any adult, let alone a police officer, should know that lights and sirens are not toys.

J. E. Fume
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J. E. Fume 10/26/12 - 03:44 pm
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Back when the two officers in

Back when the two officers in Juneau (Adair and Kennedy) were shot and killed, the then chief of police in Juneau (James Barkley I believe) tried to get a law passed in the legislature to allow police department to detain and hold people who they deemed to be unstable and possibly dangerous to the community. The law got nowhere.
For those out there who think Mr. Marvin should have been detained or something of that nature, it would have been unlawful for the Hoonah Police department to have done so. In hindsight, obviously the dead officers should have handled the situation in a different fashion. However, they did not have the luxury of pushing a reset button. Second guessing the actions of the slain officers is nonproductive.

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ken dunker II 10/26/12 - 03:57 pm
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Do Right: I considered that as well. Then reflected on how small

the community actually is...900...and I reminded myself that back in my youth Juneau was a little quirky too in a Mayberry sense. Was not uncommon for officers to have a few building keys on their belt for access.
Heck, I remember seeing a note on the counter as IOU for a soda.
As far as SEARHC...the doors are open for those who wish to enter...no one is pushing them over the threshold.

SEARHC is there for those willing to walk in the door.

ken dunker II
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ken dunker II 10/26/12 - 04:37 pm
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lat: you make a valid point. Intent certainly is a factor here.

This case, so far, resembles a 'perfect storm'.

NativeLibraGirl907
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NativeLibraGirl907 10/26/12 - 06:57 pm
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sad

From when I remember Marvin was harassed by officer Wallace from when he was tased officer Wallace would bother him.

AKjustice
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AKjustice 10/26/12 - 08:17 pm
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@Lat58

I pondered the exact same points as you. I just can't get past the fact that he shot them in cold blood. By my account John Marvin jr. is a coward.

AH HA
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AH HA 10/26/12 - 10:40 pm
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Lat58 and AKjustice

You don’t have to get past the cold blood. You probably have that part right. It seems fair to say he did it without hesitation or forethought. Just in cold blood.

The thing is, with no premeditation it could easily change the charge he is convicted of to one of the lesser-included charges.

Barring an acquittal, I don’t see the judge letting Marvin out in our lifetimes no matter what the conviction unless of course, the DA cuts a deal with the defense. He does have a long history of passing out fairly sweet deals.

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