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AMHS: Taku sailings canceled for rest of the week

Posted: October 31, 2012 - 12:53pm

The Alaska Marine Highway System announced this morning that all sailings for the marine vessel Taku have been canceled through Friday, Nov. 2, due to a mechanical issue.

In a release, AMHS stated further updates will be made when additional information becomes available.

Affected passengers will be contacted by AMHS staff, the release stated, and more information can be obtained by calling 465-3941, or 1-800-642-0066.

To accommodate affected northbound passengers the marine vessel Kennicott will sail the following revised schedule:

Nov. 3:
Depart Ketchikan: 10:45 p.m.

Nov. 4:
Arrive Prince Rupert: 5 a.m.
Depart Prince Rupert: 8 a.m.
Arrive Ketchikan: 1 p.m.
Depart Ketchikan: 5:45 p.m.
Arrive Wrangell: 11:45 p.m.

Nov. 5:
Depart Wrangell: 12:30 a.m.
Arrive Petersburg: 3:45 a.m.
Depart Petersburg: 4:30 a.m.
Arrive Juneau: 12:30 p.m.
Depart Juneau: 4:30 p.m.

Nov. 6:
Arrive Yakutat: 9:30 a.m.
Depart Yakutat: 10:30 a.m.

Nov. 7:
Arrive Whittier: 8:30 a.m.

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alaskabobc
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alaskabobc 10/31/12 - 01:52 pm
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Altogether now!

Everyone take a bucket full of dirt to the end of the road, and throw it towards Skagway, we will have a road quicker than new ferrys.

LifeLongAlaskan
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LifeLongAlaskan 10/31/12 - 02:56 pm
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News story we would like to see.

The Alaska Marine Highway today announced that the scheduled sailing to Haines and Skagway was cancelled due to a mechanical failure of one of their ancient vessels. News of the breakdown came as no surprise to residents of the affected communities who continued on their merry way north and south via the Eastern Lynn Canal road between Skagway and Juneau. The state saved a ton of money by not having to provide fuel for the outdated smoke-belching gas-guzzling relic of a ship in order for it to waddle it's way up the Canal in duplication of the route provided by the far more efficient and dramatically easier and cost effective to maintain blacktop highway. Residents who normally make the drive anyway arrived in their usual fashion a mere hour after leaving Juneau and at a reasonable time of the day instead of waiting for the has-been Blue Canoe to leave at 4am and take over 7 hours to get there, the fast ferries having long since been relegated to the scrap yard due to inordinately high occurences of malfunctions and operating cost overruns. The only folks dissapointed at the news of the schedule delay were the starry eyed tourists who thought they could get a low cost whale watching trip courtesy of the AMHS.

stikineriver
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stikineriver 10/31/12 - 06:11 pm
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road

i still fail to see how building a road from JNU north will help those alaskans living south of juneau. While the road may benefit those living in JNU, without ferry service for your southern neighbors, the road would do us no good

alaskabobc
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alaskabobc 10/31/12 - 06:34 pm
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HHMMmmmmm,

Lets see now, Road out of Southeast, perhaps the rest of SE could get there and then DRIVE out?? Ya think?

skirkz
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skirkz 10/31/12 - 07:19 pm
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stikineriver

How about one less run to free up another in or out of Wrangell. Big picture vs. Wrangell Narrow view.

Latitude58
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Latitude58 10/31/12 - 07:21 pm
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Best road

That a $billion can buy.

Let's ask Cathy for THAT instead of some stupid skating rink.

gramaraven
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gramaraven 10/31/12 - 08:27 pm
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Who will pay 4 your road & its maintenance?

What makes you think a road north from Jnu is the answer to replacement of the Marine Highway's ferry system? A road that will service Jnu only? Jnu can not handle the avalanches that occur in or near their city. Look what happened to your electrical power and how long it took to have it fixed and back online? This was one small area, how is an entire road system to Skagway going to be taken care of during winter conditions and into avalance season? Who will pay for taking care of that? How many times will the road be shut down and unuseable?

The issue of taking care of the southern S.E. communities and the tie with Prince Rupert and WA state, what do you "road to nowhere" fans propose to resolve that by eliminating the ferry system? How much gas will each and every vehicle that takes the trek on this road burn vs a ferry loaded with vehicles that are parked below deck? People pay to use the ferries, are the people who will use this road pay to go on it? At least ferry fares bring back some revenue that helps pay for the operation and maintenance of the ferries. How many accidents and loss of life will occur from this road? How many have occurred on the ferry system? How long will the drive take on the road to and from Jnu? How long does it take on the ferry?

Get real people. There are many state roads in southern S.E. that haven't been taken care of for years, there are patches on top of patches, rebar visible from worn asphalt and they have been this way for at least 4 or more yrs. How often will this dream road see attention? Or, will it have precedence over other state roads in smaller communities and have priority with repairs & upgrades sucking up all of the money?

Nuff said.

barnardj1
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barnardj1 11/01/12 - 06:28 am
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Too bad the state can't spend

Stikineriver, thanks for stating the obvious. If it's said enough times some Juneau people might catch on, but probably not.
Too bad the state can't spend money on new ferries but they can find lots for the road boondoggle out at bessie creek. A gold plated road to nowhere indeed.

kpawsuh
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kpawsuh 11/01/12 - 07:43 am
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Just as crazy of an idea as a

Just as crazy of an idea as a road to the Florida Keys! Wait a minute...

noroadfugtive
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noroadfugtive 11/01/12 - 08:08 am
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Gram, Have you ever driven

Gram,
Have you ever driven the White Pass out of Skagway or Thompson Pass into Valdez? Those roads are much more prone to Avalanche than any road to Skagway would be and they keep them open all year long and at a manageable cost. Even during the worst years (900 inches of snow for Thompson Pass) the road is closed due to avalanche for approx: 3-4 days a season. That’s it.

Here are some numbers for fuel costs: Note that fuel is a small fraction of the cost to run the ferry. labor costs are the majority with AMHS having 750 Full time employees and approx. 100 part time.

According to Capt. Norm Edwards, AMHS operations manager. The Taku burns about $30,000 of fuel a week, he said. http://juneauempire.com/stories/050601/Ins_Taku.html

(Does anyone know the fuel economy of the Leconte?)

So using that as a quick base line it is reasonable to say that 30,000$ of fuel is equal to 6818 Gallons at 4.40$ a gallon. Since it is about 90 Miles to Skagway from Juneau and the average car gets around 18 miles a gallon then 90/18=5 Gallons to drive to Skagway from Juneau. That means that 6818/5= 1363 vehicles could drive from Juneau to Skagway and use the same amount of fuel that the Taku uses in a week.
This obviously is a very rough estimate and needs to be scaled to the fuel economy of the Leconte and to the transit between Juneau and Skagway but you get the picture.

There is no way that it is cheaper for the state to run a ferry between Juneau and Skagway than it would be to build a road. No way. Just look at labor cost alone.

snagger
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snagger 11/01/12 - 08:27 am
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If We Had It.....

This would just be reported as a bump in the Road!!!

nottacheechako
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nottacheechako 11/01/12 - 10:10 am
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No roadfugitive is right on...

The road all the way to Skagway IS the best long term solution to all of SE Alaska's transportation needs.

Sadly, the facts and figures Noroadfugitive provided just won't sway the anti roadies that would prefer to keep us in the 19th century dark ages forever and continue to make SE Alaska one of the most expensive places in the USA to live in...wait until the political clout up North finally decides enough is enough with the expensive and inefficient Marine Hwy system and quits funding it for their own highways up there.

wavemkr
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wavemkr 11/01/12 - 10:22 am
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Roads are cheaper than ferries.

.......a LOT cheaper.

sage50
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sage50 11/01/12 - 12:50 pm
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Time to retire Taku

Time to retire Taku and build a road between Juneau, Haines and Skagway and get another new ferry or two for south of Juneau and Washington. Haines and Skagway have their share of flights each day and a road connection to north so why even have a ferry. A road to their towns from Juneau would be a great benefit for tourism.

kflynn
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kflynn 11/01/12 - 03:51 pm
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toll road

I would gleefully pay $100.00 for a round trip on the Lynn Canal Highway.

claygood
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claygood 11/01/12 - 04:42 pm
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So Predictable

Almost as predictable as the risk of avalanches along east Lynn Canal are the posts of those who claim that maintainence problems with the ferry I moved to Juneau on in 1967 are a rationale for building a road to a gold mine in Berners Bay under the pretense of access to Skagway...year round.

I have driven the avalanche prone road to Seward in winter a dozen times. It is terrifying and I've been stranded more than once for days while the road is cleared. Made me think about the safety and convenience of ferries.

A road to Skagway would make Alaska's other avalanche prone roads look like childs play. Ferries serve all of our communities in SE. Let's build roads where they make sense, and use ferries where they make sense.

noroadfugtive
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noroadfugtive 11/01/12 - 05:22 pm
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Clay:"The only significant

Clay:

"The only significant seasonal problem facing the Seward Highway is adverse winter conditions. The road is closed by avalanches an average of five times a year for approximately four hours each time."

from: http://byways.org/explore/byways/10390/services

How often do the ferries break down? And ferries break down all year round, not just in the winter.

The Citizens of Juneau should be screaming for a road.

Latitude58
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Latitude58 11/01/12 - 09:00 pm
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Better a road

Than Parnell giving it all back to the oil companies.

bigdan57
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bigdan57 11/02/12 - 07:37 am
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Ferry/road

Has any one who is advocating for this road half way
to Skagway actually done any research. The proposed
road will only go part way, then you still have to get on
a ferry across Lynn Canal, a ferry that will be prone
to breakdowns, and still won't be able to make the
crossing in bad weather. If this is not the definition
of a "road to no where" I don't know what is. The
state can't maintain the existing roads in SE.

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