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Parents concerned about school nurse cuts

Superintendent: Nurse-sharing 'new' to district, but not 'unprecedented'

Posted: November 14, 2012 - 1:02am

Less than a week after allocating funds to tackle one staffing issue in the Juneau School District, the district’s Board of Education heard about another Tuesday evening, as several parents spoke out against the sharing of school nurses between certain Juneau schools.

Due to cuts to the school nurse program, schools such as Dzantik’i Heeni Middle School and Thunder Mountain High School have only a part-time nurse, as some schools are sharing a nurse.

Brooke Rohweder, whose daughter has a condition that requires her to take medication, said that Dzantik’i Heeni’s lack of a full-time nurse has led to her daughter missing her scheduled doses on occasion. She claimed that the cuts could amount to “discrimination” against students with chronic conditions or disabilities.

“School staff members are not substitute for a trained nurse in the care of my daughter or any other student,” said Rohweder, despite noting that some Dzantik’i Heeni staff have been trained as “unlicensed assistive personnel,” or UAPs, capable of carrying out certain medical duties.

Rohweder added, “By using UAPs in place of a nurse, I believe the Juneau School District has lowered the standards of care in schools to the point that can be considered discrimination against students with disabilities both hidden and visible.”

Parents Teresa Kesey and Shaunna Sollie made similar arguments, with Kesey remarking that not all of Juneau’s schools have to share a nurse.

“The rationale for staffing some with a full-time nurse and others with a half-time nurse is unclear at this point,” Kesey said. “I am concerned that there will be further cuts to nurses in future years.”

Kesey continued, “I request that the school board add this topic as an agenda item to the next school board meeting and give serious consideration to reinstating a full-time nurse to each of our Juneau schools before a medical emergency occurs that could have been prevented.”

Like Kesey, Sollie said that her children have needs that require a nurse to be available at any time.

“People stare at my kids because they have disabilities,” said Sollie. “And sometimes the nurse is the only thing that can help. Not a teacher, because they’re so busy.”

During a break in the meeting, Superintendent Glenn Gelbrich said the district has no plans to revert the school nurse plan it adopted for the year, although he acknowledged that the UAPs cannot provide the same degree of care as the nurses.

“I wouldn’t say that having unlicensed assistive personnel, even if trained, affords the same kind of healthcare,” Gelbrich said. “But I would point out that nationally and across our state, there are school districts where nurses are shared among schools to provide the support to kids’ well-being. So it’s not an unprecedented practice. It is new to us, and it’s hard.”

School board members did not comment on the issue during the public participation section of the meeting, as the participation given was not on an item on the meeting agenda. Board President Sally Saddler thanked Rohweder, Kesey and Sollie for their testimony.

Last Wednesday, the school board held a special meeting at which it approved Harborview Elementary School and Glacier Valley Elementary School’s requests for a new teacher (http://bit.ly/T0hyJ1).

An unanticipated surge in student enrollment helped provide the district with some unexpected additional funding, part of which was allocated for the Harborview and Glacier Valley teachers.

But prior to that meeting — at which school nurse Maureen Hall submitted testimony critical of the nurse program cuts as well — the board was wary of requests for more staffing, pointing to a low projected budget reserve for the district. Although it voted to allocate funds to add classes at Juneau-Douglas High School and Riverbend Elementary School in September, even then, board members and district staff noted the JSD’s delicate fiscal situation with dismay (http://bit.ly/Tpplwf).

Brad Hoyt, director of student services, cited limited funding back in September in explaining the school nurse program cuts as well (http://bit.ly/TDH5UD).

The school board meeting Tuesday also showcased the elementary school violinists of Juneau, Alaska Music Matters, a music education program led by Glacier Valley music teacher Lorrie Heagy.

Heagy thanked the school board members and those in the audience after the group performed a few tunes, including the “Can-Can,” to which attendees clapped along on cue with conductor Guo Hua Xia.

JAMM’s performance at the meeting was filmed for a planned Public Broadcasting Service professional development series (http://bit.ly/Zq5qny).

Jill Peters, executive producer of children’s and educational media at New York City-based PBS affiliate Thirteen/WNET, is in town this week for that project.

“It has been my privilege to spend this week at Glacier Valley,” Peters said to the board. She added, “I hope you’re not sick of the compliments, but every day, I have just seen more and more that has been absolutely inspiring.”

The professional development series in which JAMM will feature is expected to be available on the Web in early 2014.

• Contact reporter Mark D. Miller at 523-2279 or at mark.d.miller@juneauempire.com.

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kpawsuh
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kpawsuh 11/14/12 - 08:15 am
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Every day I see more and more

Every day I see more and more reasons to justify why I homeschool...

Banditrider
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Banditrider 11/14/12 - 08:21 am
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Cutting in the wrong places?

The school district is going to get sued when an unlicensed and untrained school employee gives the wrong med or dose to a child. There are so many overpaid administrators at the top, a good way to save some dollars would be a 10-15% salary cut for those making over $100K per year. This fits right in with Obama's plan to tax the rich.

bjfluetsch
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bjfluetsch 11/14/12 - 08:58 am
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What is wrong with the school board?

Why is the school board cutting bone when there are so many fat, non-productive administrative salaries that could be eliminated? Stand-up for students and get your priorities right school board!

akangel
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akangel 11/14/12 - 08:59 am
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Cuts

The cuts are absolutely ridiculous! The other day my friend mentioned that her child at Floyd Dryden had missed a test due to an illness. When the student went to the teacher to take it, the teacher told the student he would need to pay 10cents to make a copy of the test, they were not kidding.
1-why aren't students taking tests on computers at this point, and 2-if they had initially made enough copies of the test, why would the 1 student be singled out to pay a measly 10 cents for a test?
I am outraged at the direction the school board is going and so glad my kids are almost out of school.

trinket
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trinket 11/14/12 - 10:09 am
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All an issue of who is willing to pay for it...

You have the masses that want this but the lack of persons willing to fund it. Taxes fund these programs aside from what the state/government allocates for school based on student population. If you don't vote for the tax funding on this you can't really expect that the program can continue (I get something for nothing mentality).

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billb 11/14/12 - 11:15 am
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School Nurses

There are many things that only a licensed nurse can perform. Also as some have said is a missed necessary med has been missed, or the wrong dosages has been given the school; is liable. A nurse is licensed and is less likely to have this happen. Somme special needs students NEED their med given at exact times. Some even need injections given daily. Only a licensed nurse, or dr. are supposed to give these type of injections. Students with ADHD have meds that a dr. cannot say on a prescription may refill. A prescription has to written each refill. It is the same category as morphine and similar drugs. ONLY listened professionals are permitted to give these drugs with the exception of parents.

Do the Right Thing
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Do the Right Thing 11/14/12 - 11:24 am
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Teachers/unions protect their benefits first and foremost

Education comes way at the bottom of the list when edicators are fighting for funding.

Paying to make a copy of a test the child never received is ridiculous but sharing school nurses is reasonable. If the complaining parent delayed their child's medication because they were out shopping or on vacation; they wouldn't bat an eye about changing the dose time. No one believes that the child always went to the nurse on time to take the meds when one was in school full time either.

I'm sure school nurses mean well but they have extremely limited capabilities. They can not prescribe any medication or a initiate any kind of treatment plan. They only follow the exact instructions on the medication parents bring in to school; much the same as any remotely competent adult would do.

LunariarWarrior
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LunariarWarrior 11/14/12 - 12:27 pm
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You know... I'm pretty sure

You know... I'm pretty sure the School Board would have more funds if they didn't buy items like that useless "feather" on the school grounds of Floyd Dryden Middle School...

BCNU2
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BCNU2 11/14/12 - 01:15 pm
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AKAngel--The Floyd teacher who said

it would cost 10 cents per page was trying to give the kids a quick lesson in "taxing without representation." I guess there was a slightly heated discussion amongst peers about how is was unfair. My daughter told me the whole story.

juneauakgrrl
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juneauakgrrl 11/14/12 - 01:37 pm
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fact

87% of homeschooled children go on to depend on welfare as adults.

kpawsuh
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kpawsuh 11/14/12 - 01:44 pm
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Lets see some citations on

Lets see some citations on that fact. Considering I know a bunch who will have their associates almost done before they are out of high school, I am highly suspect. You and I are definitely not on the same page today...

kpawsuh
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kpawsuh 11/14/12 - 01:48 pm
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Its been said that 93.8% of

Its been said that 93.8% of all statistics are completely made up on the spot...

juneauakgrrl
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juneauakgrrl 11/14/12 - 01:55 pm
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74% of all heroin use comes

74% of all heroin use comes from having an overbearing mother.

LunariarWarrior
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LunariarWarrior 11/14/12 - 02:19 pm
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...

I love how off topic these comments became...

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Tikitime 11/14/12 - 03:25 pm
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whiners...

The school nurses really do not need to be there to give a medication... for crying out loud they read the bottle or punch card like anyone else. Anyone can give a med. We give more money to those schools than any school in the lower 48 and our graduation rates and learning is no better. In fact our graduation rates are worse. I don't think that more money thrown at them will fix this problem. The school board needs to figure out where all the money is, the parents need to realize that the school is not a catch-all for their children's problems and the unions and teachers need to not be greedy.

akangel
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akangel 11/14/12 - 03:34 pm
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Hmmmmm

@Tikitime, Are you a parent of children in the JSD? Or even a parent for that matter? If not, then I'd suggest you are talking about something you truly don't know about. My daughter has asthma, and in JSD, students aren't allowed to use their inhalers on their own. If a random, lets say teacher or janitor were to have to administer my daughters inhaler I wouldn't be comfortable with that. Nurses know the signs of serious asthma attacks, etc. That is just one minor(not minor if you understand how bad asthma can be) medical situation. I know both parents noted above and they are not over reacting and this does need to be addressed immediately.

There are so many things our school district could do differently to make it financially better for all. If I weren't working 2 jobs and raising 3 kids I'd run for school board, hopefully after my kids graduate from high school.

akangel
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akangel 11/14/12 - 03:44 pm
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@juneauakgrrl

Are you having a bad day? Just saw your comments on another article....these are ridiculously random stats that you are putting out there.....why bother?

bjfluetsch
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bjfluetsch 11/14/12 - 04:52 pm
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akangel

seems like juneauakgrrl is auditioning for a job with the Obama administration!

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lvmykyk 11/14/12 - 05:01 pm
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meds

As the mom of a tween with severe allergies I am on the fence. My child several times a year lands in the nurse's office needing benedryl, may come a time when epi is needed. I am concerned that there will be a slower response time in trying to find a "qualified" person to give him his meds, increasing the chances of needing the epi. At the same time I don't think a nurse is the only one capable of giving it to him. Honestly, he is capable of doing it on his own. But school policy does not allow him. However, I am sick of site services being cut while the district office remains fat and sassy and getting fatter. Almost a mirror of Corporate America with the Corp offices getting fatter while the factory workers get laid off. Makes me mad.

Alaskastu
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Alaskastu 11/14/12 - 09:23 pm
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Seriously JE reporters. How

Seriously JE reporters. How have you not ran a story about where the money is in the district? Either way you'd sell more papers.

AH HA
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AH HA 11/14/12 - 10:22 pm
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Well, I'm Concerned as well.....

I think there ought to be a fully staffed emergency room and a fully staffed operating suite at each school. My child deserves the best that other people can pay for.

Tikitime
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Tikitime 11/15/12 - 06:34 am
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@ak angel

the answers to your questions are, Yes and Yes. Secondly if you trust your child to administer their own inhaler (which should be the case) and JSD does not allow her to keep it on herself. Then is should Not be a problem for a trained Janitor or office staff to hand her the inhaler and allow her to administer it to herself when she feels the need. If she truly can be trusted to know when to use it.

kpawsuh
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kpawsuh 11/15/12 - 08:22 am
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I would not want to be the

I would not want to be the "Qualified" person handing out the meds. Can you imagine the court case when you followed your instructions, but something went bad, even if it was not tied to you. maybe a random side effect of the med or something? But they would still sue the school district and probably you personally, and the school district would totally hang you out to dry. At leas the nurse has a medical degree to fall back on. Your defense? I just read the label. No I have no training or anything. I'm the janitor and this is "Other duties as assigned" Just sign your house over now...

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