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Gun range and retail store takes off with a bang

Posted: December 11, 2012 - 9:45pm  |  Updated: December 12, 2012 - 1:10pm

A proposed indoor gun range and retail shop near the airport has received permit approval from the City and Borough of Juneau Planning Commission Tuesday night.

The 13,000 square foot space would house a food counter and gun retail shop upstairs and a five-lane gun range in a concrete box below ground. Juneau Mercantile and Armory would situate its facility at 1720 Crest Street. The property is owned by Valley Center Development LLC.

The shop and range would employ between a 12 and 15 people. Customers could rent automatic weapons for use under the watchful eye of a National Rifle Association certified range safety officer.

Mercantile and Armory is owned by Planning Commissioner Dan Miller, Jason Tarver and Sloan Swendsen.

CBJ staff recommended the commission adopt the permit.

Commissioner Marsha Bennett cast the sole no vote. She said she was opposed to the use of automatic weapons. She was joined by local resident Amy Page, who testified that she is appalled that the city might approve of the use of automatic weapons.

“Our goal is to provide a safe facility,” Swendsen said. “To educate the youth and their parents.”

Shooting machine guns is a pastime spreading across the U.S., Swendsen said.

“We are the first in Alaska,” Swendsen said. “But we won’t be the last.”

• Contact reporter Russell Stigall at 523-2276 or at russell.stigall@juneauempire.com.

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futomake
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futomake 12/12/12 - 07:37 am
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Below grown?

"The 13,000 square foot space would house a food counter and gun retail shop upstairs and a five-lane gun range in a concrete box below grown."

curtis
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curtis 12/12/12 - 07:46 am
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I can't wait to shoot machine

I can't wait to shoot machine guns!! I wonder if we are allowed to bring our own?

GJSmith
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GJSmith 12/12/12 - 08:30 am
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Support Small Business

It's amazing they were given the permits for this type of business in this small PC town. But I'll definately try it out. It sounds like fun.

kflynn
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kflynn 12/12/12 - 08:56 am
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sounds fun

Sounds like fun but i am sure its not cheap to cut loose with a tommy gun!

kpawsuh
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kpawsuh 12/12/12 - 08:59 am
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Why did they give them the

Why did they give them the permits in this small PC town? "Mercantile and Armory is owned by Planning Commissioner Dan Miller, Jason Tarver and Sloan Swendsen" Owned by the planning commissioner so the permits sail through...
Think it will be a good biz though.

AKdan7
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AKdan7 12/12/12 - 09:24 am
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Why automatics?

I certainly see the need for an indoor shooting range. Many years ago (Oooh so many years ago) there was one in the basement of Harborview Elementary School. It was a great place to learn how to safely handle a firearm. Firearms are a needed item in Alaska (some may disagree with that statement) for gathering food and for protection from wildlife.
But automatic weapons are not necessary for anything except shooting up the schools, the malls, the whatever. You sure don't go hunting with one. What are you going to do? Mow down a whole herd of deer?
I am all in favor of the shooting range, but please do not allow automatic weapons.

Rockfish
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Rockfish 12/12/12 - 09:36 am
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A previous article mentioned

A previous article mentioned they are targeting the tourist market and off duty police more so than hunters or folks that just like to practice.

AKjustice
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AKjustice 12/12/12 - 10:03 am
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Sign me up!

Looking forward to this new business. I haven't burst or full auto'd since my days in the service.

I'll take another 1000 rounds please sir... and can I get this in full auto too?

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glacierdogs 12/12/12 - 10:25 am
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Comment

I hope this facility is constructed and opened, and that it succeeds. In the meantime, Juneau has a great indoor range on Montana Creek Road right now. It is open to the public 4 days a week for shooting rimfire rifles and any handgun. I don't know if there is a policy or prohibition on selective fire, or if that question has ever come up. The cost is $5 per hour per lane but the first hour is free. It's a fine facility; heated, environmentally safe, clean restrooms, etc. The facility is used for many events like community turkey shoots, the annual legislative shoot, and lots of safety and shooter training. You can learn more about the facility and its hours of operation through the ADF&G Wildlife Division website.

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barnardj1 12/12/12 - 11:31 am
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Yes, it's legal. Hopefully

Yes, it's legal. Hopefully one day soon gun worship will diminish in America and the NRA culture will fade away. Does using a machine gun lead to terrorism? Depends how you define terrorism. The people in the Oregon mall or the Colorado movie theater might have a different definition from the people who will go to this business for their recreation.

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travelnate 12/12/12 - 11:39 am
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Lets be real..

I'd rather have people shooting semi-auto's in an enclosed environment than shooting up all the signs up the road. My first year here, I could barely read 1/2 of the signs once you got past mile 30ish.

I'm a strong supporter of the Constitution, and the right to bear arms doesn't have any exclusions. Citizens should be able to buy whatever guns they want and use them how they see fit... most of my friends WITH semi-autos are mostly just hobbyist or collectors, not the whack-pack dudes shooting up people in malls. Plus we don't really have any malls here, so why worry about shooting rampages? < /sarcasm >

really
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really 12/12/12 - 12:25 pm
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barnardj, neither of the

barnardj, neither of the firearms used in Colorado or Oregon were "machineguns"! They were semiauto rifles and if you don't know the difference then you really shouldn't be spouting hateful missinformation!

Guns do not kill people on their own! None of my guns have ever jumped out of my safe and discharged on their own. The day that happens is the day I get rid of the. The people weilding the guns are to blame not the gun! In the absence of firearms, these people will still kill. In Japan, a country where gun ownership is highly restrictive, knives have been used in attacks. Just last month, a young man in Montana used a bow and arrow and a knife to kill three including himself. Point being... don't blame the gun, blame the person using the gun!

travelnate
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travelnate 12/12/12 - 12:54 pm
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Ooo...

I know what we need....

We need to BAN FOOD. Because food kills people. Think of it, no one would die of heart disease, clogged arteries, we'd reduce strokes, and probably even cancer.

Lets also ban AUTO GAS... because automobiles kill way too many people every year. We'd have no more drunk drivers, pedestrians getting killed...

I'm starting to understand the liberal logic!!! We should make everything bad illegal, because that's how we stop it. I mean, we certainly don't have a DRUG problem in this town since its illegal!

GJSmith
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GJSmith 12/12/12 - 03:17 pm
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Identity Crisis

It's hard to be a ACLU hating, philosophically Libertarian, socially liberal, fiscally conservative, scientifically grounded, god fearing, traditionalist, gun owner who believes in self determination.

But I do actually know what I want and I get by.

Downtownie
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Downtownie 12/12/12 - 01:36 pm
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Typos

Besides the "below grown" typo that was already mentioned, there is also this: "between a 12 and 15 people." What word would even go where the a is? If you are going to start charging for your online content, are you at least going to hire a proofreader?

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MarkReardon 12/12/12 - 01:45 pm
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Hey AK Dan

You ask "Why Automatics". This type of question only gets asked about guns and is always followed by "You don't need it" statements.
Who cares what I need. It's about what I want. We founded the whole country on pursuit of happiness for God's sake.

If you happened to be in San Francisco (or Chicago, NYC, Toronto.....) on Pride day, would you feel you had to go tell one of the celebrants he doesn't NEED to be out in public wearing two straps of leather and a bright plastic accessory? Or would you just shake your head not understanding his path in pursuit of happiness and move on?

kpawsuh
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kpawsuh 12/12/12 - 02:29 pm
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We also dont need 98" plasma

We also dont need 98" plasma screens, five pound bricks of chocolate or any more televised football games. But we will anyway.

really
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really 12/12/12 - 02:57 pm
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EASY Kpawsuh!!! You start

EASY Kpawsuh!!! You start messing with televised football games you will cross a line!

travelnate
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travelnate 12/12/12 - 04:06 pm
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98" tv??

What the he... just get a projector ^_^

Or do those cause cancer too... I mean, we want big government to tell us what we can & can't do, right? Wouldn't want to harm our eyes.

Then again, should we even be watching or playing football? How many injuries occur each year because someone is playing football. And the liability of throwing a pig skin, its so anti-semetic. Isn't it a sin to touch the skin of a pig? So if the jewish folks can't play football, then by watching football are we now anti-semetic, while watching people get injured. I think someone needs to contact their congressmen and ban this racist sport and big TVs and projectors.

AKdan7
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AKdan7 12/12/12 - 04:34 pm
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Hey, Mark,

So, you're saying that you should get whatever it is you want? Regardless of any other consideration? Talk about greed. "I want it, so I should have it. Period. No, ifs, ands, or buts about it!" Sounds a bit childish and whiney, don't you think?

kflynn
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kflynn 12/12/12 - 04:33 pm
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while we are at it...

My crew cab dually does not need to do 100 mph but it can. I could probably get by with 1 light in my office, but i have 3. I didnt really need to replace my massive 21" CRT computer monitor with this flat screen im typing into, but i did. I could probably hunt with a bolt action 30-06 but i got the semi-auto .308 FNAR with 20 round magazine instead. I probably dont need to drive around in 4WD as much as i do in the winter time but i have it so why not?

Damn i love this country!

ima49er
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ima49er 12/12/12 - 05:09 pm
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I just don't understand

why gun "enthusiasts" are so often unfairly stereotyped?

AKjustice
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AKjustice 12/12/12 - 05:25 pm
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@ima49er

Because we are armed and most of us know how to use'em. The anti gunners are afraid of us!

johnnybebad
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johnnybebad 12/12/12 - 06:33 pm
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Good Luck!

Building a multi-million dollar facility with 12-15 employees in a town with a population of 30,000 people? I wish you guys the best because these numbers don’t add up even if you do successfully target the tourist industry. Your banker should be spanked. Good luck!

fmast50
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fmast50 12/12/12 - 07:19 pm
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Johnnybebad has an intelligent thought

The 12-15 employees point is spot on. Even if you figure the average hourly wage is only $12 per hour (which is low) and they only have 10 employees, that is, with tax and other payroll benefits, about $300,000 per year. And that's only payroll costs. For a brick and mortar mom and pop like that, figure your payroll costs are about 1/3 or so of the total costs (utilities, inventory, insurance, etc.) and you start pushing $1million per year to operate that place. Those three guys are friggin' kidding themselves if they think they will make any money. They'll be working for the bank and the cbj until the day they close the doors and give it to someone else. On the bright side, the second owners of that building will get a good below-ground meat locker. Dan and Jason made the fatal mistake of listening to Sloan's bs.

akbrdguru
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akbrdguru 12/12/12 - 07:42 pm
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More SF Giants fans have been

More SF Giants fans have been killed at ball games at Chavez Ravine.

Slapshot
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Slapshot 12/12/12 - 08:31 pm
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It's all about the tourist

Just imagine bus loads of aspiring Rambos and Scarfaces pouring handfuls of cash into the coffers of this new business and you will begin to understand the profit potential.

"Say hello to my little friend"

fireguy
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fireguy 12/12/12 - 09:53 pm
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Congratulations on the

Congratulations on the permits. I know my family will frequent your shop. I don't own a fully auto gun, I can't afford to shoot one all the time, this is a great opportunity to experience something new without the huge investment.
Good luck guys. I hope your new shop is a big success.

fmast50
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fmast50 12/13/12 - 07:59 am
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Right, Slapshot

Keep telling yourself that. It's gonna be at least 2015 before you are able to get into the flow with the tour boats. That will seem like a long way off by this time next year. And you'll need probably a minimum of 100 per day for the 150-day season. A project like this makes a lot of sense in a year round tourist spot or big city, but not here. Not saying I hope this place doesn't work, somehow, just that it won't. The best bet is for y'all to think small. Get your family to staff it and keep your overhead costs at an absolute minimum and you may be able to keep the doors open at least until you get some tourists through the doors.

Put Name Here
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Put Name Here 12/13/12 - 09:49 am
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It's about time...

We need a decent gun store in this town. Sounds like these guys are energetic and I am sure they will adjust their plans accordingly if something doesn't work. l look forward to seeing the new store in town and plan to be a regular customer. Congratulations!

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