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Posted: December 17, 2012 - 10:43pm  |  Updated: December 18, 2012 - 1:02am
Flags fly at half mast outside the Dimond Courthouse on Monday. President Obama ordered all U.S. flags lowered until sunset Tuesday to honor the victims of the school shooting in Newtown, Conn.  Michael Penn / Juneau Empire
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Flags fly at half mast outside the Dimond Courthouse on Monday. President Obama ordered all U.S. flags lowered until sunset Tuesday to honor the victims of the school shooting in Newtown, Conn.

Flags fly at half mast outside the Dimond Courthouse on Monday. President Obama ordered all U.S. flags lowered until sunset Tuesday to honor the victims of the school shooting in Newtown, Conn.

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ForReal
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ForReal 12/18/12 - 06:29 am
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The town is called Newtown,

The town is called Newtown, not Newton.

Latitude58
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Latitude58 12/18/12 - 08:42 am
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piggie

You're saying the Newtown tragedy was faked? That's one of the most offensive comments I've read here.

Abby Lowell
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Abby Lowell 12/18/12 - 09:00 am
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Piggie and fixed

I've corrected the misspelling of the town. Thanks for the notification. And, I've "unpublished" the comment you mentioned Latitude58. Joking or not, this photo is no place for funny business.

AKjustice
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AKjustice 12/18/12 - 10:07 am
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Sandy Hook

Peace to folks. Your pain is our as well.

thislittlepiggie
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thislittlepiggie 12/18/12 - 09:15 am
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Only politically correct

Only politically correct opinions are ok with the empire.

When they take our guns away for nothing we all will loose.

swimmergirl
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swimmergirl 12/18/12 - 09:47 am
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Thoughts are with the families.....

....and their unimaginable loss.

Piggie - you tell the families who lost their kindergarden age children that limitations on assult weapons would be "for nothing".

send9line
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send9line 12/18/12 - 09:54 am
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My heart is still breaking!!

My heart is still breaking!!

Roc103
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Roc103 12/18/12 - 10:36 am
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Half mast?

or staff? Small point...just curious.

hiker
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hiker 12/18/12 - 11:14 am
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My thoughts are with the

My thoughts are with the families of the victims, the people of Newtown, and the nation.

Many of us feel a little less safe today. I don't know about you guys but I lost a little of my faith in humanity with this tragedy. I think we need to pull together because we all have some healing. Do something nice for somebody. Treat a stranger with kindness. Try to relate to someone else's point of view.

The human race can do such damage and we can also strive to greatness. Nothing will bring back the dead or undo the damage of this shooting spree but positive actions can restore our faith in ourselves as a species.

kpawsuh
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kpawsuh 12/18/12 - 12:37 pm
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Yes, this is a terrible

Yes, this is a terrible tragedy, on many levels. Many, far to many, were killed. This is always a sad event. Its sad that it keeps happening again and again, with nothing changing. Its sad that politicians will use a tragic event like this to forward their own agendas. Banning assualt rifles would not have stopped this. He didn't buy it. He stole it. From his mother, but still stole it. Criminals will always have guns regardless of how many laws you pass.That has been proven the world over. I mourn for these kids and teachers, but what about the others? Was there a national day of mourning with lowered flags for the dead from Sandy? A week later, they were old news. Next! What about the soldiers being killed in needless wars? Barely mentioned. Our Ambassador and staff? No mention at all. Certainly no official day of mourning. I am very leary of an administration that will ignore many many instances with more loss of life, yet snap to attention and race to offer his deepest condolences for a small act of violence, tragic, but small in comparison, but that serves his agenda. Shame on these politicians. This is a horrible event, but grandstanding to push your agenda is worse. In my opinion.

HanSolo
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HanSolo 12/18/12 - 01:04 pm
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Frustrating

I'm so tired of listening to this gunhaver logic. It's like dealing with a 3-year old.

"I want ice cream for breakfast."
"You can't have ice cream for breakfast, it's not good for you."
"But I want it! Wahhhh!" (Stomps of to bedroom)

So similar to...

"I want to own combat-grade assualt weapons."
"You can't own combat-grade assualt weapons, it feeds right into the glamorization of gun violence and acts to tear apart our society."
"But I want to! Wahhhhh!" (Stomps off to gun range)

wren
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wren 12/18/12 - 01:43 pm
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This...

This tragedy sickened me to the point I couldn't even watch/listen to the news. It was troublesome driving down the road with the children in the car and having to keep flipping the channel because my elementary school kids didn't need to hear about this incident. They shouldn't be made to fear going to school because of irresponsible reporting all over the place.

This was the most painful thing I've seen take place in the US EVER!

I still believe in our constitutional rights, 2nd Amendment, because the only people the government has ever kept guns from successfully are the law abiding citizens, never the criminals. In fact, government is more responsible for giving guns to criminals than keeping guns away from them.

I wish we could keep this type of incident amongst adults and not have it blasted to our children across the nation on every media outlet. Elementary school students should never have to question if they will live or die on any given day because these incidents happen in other parts of the country.

thislittlepiggie
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thislittlepiggie 12/18/12 - 03:58 pm
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Tragic indeed. Wren Our

Tragic indeed.

Wren
Our country is America.
Our government is us.

hiker
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hiker 12/18/12 - 04:38 pm
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Kpawsuh

Kpawsuh, I gave you a thumbs up for your post even though I disagree with some of it. What I liked about your post was you seem to be thinking deeply and that is actually rare for posters. A lot of times people parrot political party rants.

I agree that there are vastly worse tragedies happening all the time. Tragedies of this magnitude, in terms of number or deaths, happen every day to our soldiers and to innocent bystanders in war in Afghanistan for example. We eat crap in this country, we get fat, and we don’t know why because the media isn’t reporting that corporate lobbyist own the food supply. One has to look to obtuse sources these days to even learn what food should be. You won’t find it in a school lunch. Our children think it normal to own a big screen tv and an arsenal of video games. Orders of magnitude more school children will die of obesity and cancer than will ever die from schoolyard shootings and yet people are scared witless over guns in schools.

So far I agree with you but I think you got one aspect wrong. This shooting is a big deal and people should be concerned. I could be wrong of course. I don’t think the media is covering it because of the numbers of dead. I don’t think we have a national day of mourning because of the number of dead. I think people are shocked to the core at the brutality and senselessness of the whole thing. I know I am. I disagree with a lot of things Obama has done but I think he did the right thing this time by speaking to the country about this. I think the flags should be at half staff. Not because the number of dead is high. The old punk “Strangers die every day” doesn’t apply here. People are shocked at this violence because the victims were so innocent and the motive so strange.

This sort of violence strikes fear because we haven’t developed ways to process the risk and that makes us scared. The risks you spoke of like the war in Afghanistan are certainly worse but we have coped with war for millennia. For better or worse, psychologically we are prepared for all the stuff you talked about. Ambassadors get killed sometimes because we need diplomats even in war torn countries. We applaud their courage but their deaths don’t strike fear at our core. We have coping mechanisms that allow us to feel safe even if we are not. Note, that coping mechanisms against fear don't actually have to work; they just have to be in place and make us think they work.

We have not built a set of mental safeguards for the sort of insanity that happened in Newtown. It could happen here and there is no way to see it coming. We tend to think nobody will kill us because nobody has a motive to kill us. That mental safety net changes when some nut starts killing people for no apparent reason. The shooting in Newtown was a form of terrorism that many people don’t know how to process. That the criminal probably didn’t intend it as terrorism doesn’t matter.

His actions struck terror.

While I agree that more people will be killed by doughnuts than guns, nobody fears a doughnut. Perhaps we should.

ForReal
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ForReal 12/18/12 - 10:21 pm
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I had to leave the msn page

I had to leave the msn page because I just couldn't handle it anymore. I've cried so much over this senseless murder of innocent children, that I'm actually exhausted. My mind is muddled and yet, I'm angry. Angry that Lanza, who was obviously mentally ill, was able to get his hands on weapons. His mother, who knew of his mental problems should never have encouraged his interest in weapons and shooting. I'm also angry that people now want all guns removed from the public! Did anyone read about the man in China who stabbed 20 elementary kids and 8 adults in a rampage at a school; this happened on the same day as the Newtown murders. He didn't need a gun to do this, he used a knife. Let's ban all knives. How about people that use vehicles as weapons, do we ban all vehicles? Guns, knives and vehicles, when used by mentally stable people do not cause harm and do not kill. The History Channel cancelled the show "American Guns" because of Lanza's attack. They cancelled a show that teaches respect for weapons, the proper and safe way to use weapons and they have a true love of America's history with weapons. There is nothing wrong with weapons, the problem comes when mentally unstable people are provided access to them. If they remove guns from us, don't think for one minute anyone will be safer for it. The criminals will always have guns and if our government takes away our guns, then we will be easy targets for criminals.

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