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P&R: Restrict Auke Lake motorized use

PRAC weighing plan for lake management

Posted: January 9, 2013 - 1:05am

On Tuesday evening, the Parks and Recreation Advisory Committee heard about an Auke Lake management draft plan developed by city staff last month that would call on the City and Borough of Juneau to restrict the horsepower of motorized vehicles on the lake and take an active role in regulating lake use.

Parks and Recreation staff generated the plan after three public meetings late last year were held to solicit public comment on management and use of Auke Lake.

The plan finds that Auke Lake can only safely accommodate one high-horsepower motorized vehicle at a time, with staff citing the federal Water and Land Recreation Opportunity Spectrum, or WALROS, to reach that conclusion.

As a result, the plan calls for all motorized vehicles on the lake to be limited to 10 horsepower.

No state or municipal ordinance governing the lake, which is owned by the Alaska Department of Natural Resources but administered by Juneau Parks and Recreation, currently imposes a limit on either the number of vehicles that can be on Auke Lake at one time or on the horsepower of said vehicles.

City code limits the length of vessels using Auke Lake to 16 feet or less, a restriction the plan proposes replacing with the horsepower limit.

“Existing efforts to regulate motorized watercraft on Auke Lake have failed to balance the physical and social demands of those who live or recreate on Auke Lake with the need to maintain public safety and promote a healthy and productive lake ecosystem,” the plan reads in part. “Existing levels of motorized use far exceed the lake’s carrying capacity, negatively impacting public safety and reducing the recreational experience for all lake users. The fact that Auke Lake is the only navigable lake on Juneau’s road system does not change the fact that available water surface acres are not adequate for the type of high-horsepower watercraft and activities now common at the lake.”

Last June, a collision between an inner tube and a jet-ski on Auke Lake left 16-year-old Savannah Cayce dead and another girl injured. Parks and Recreation expanded its review of Auke Lake management after the incident to look at public safety at the lake.

In addition to the horsepower restriction, the draft plan calls for “towed devices” like inner tubes to be banned from Auke Lake “because the available water surface area is not adequate for this type of activity.”

The plan also recommends the CBJ create a seasonal position within Parks and Recreation for a park ranger empowered to enforce municipal laws on the lake during the summer, as well as ensure staff access to a boat.

The Juneau Police Department does not have a boat or any marine officers. As a result, enforcement of existing regulations on the lake is difficult at best.

Parks and Recreation Director Brent Fischer explained staff’s findings and recommendations to the PRAC at the Mendenhall Public Library Tuesday evening, where the committee held its first meeting of 2013.

PRAC member Chris Mertl questioned whether one high-horsepower boat at a time could be allowed on the lake to tow waterskiers.

Fischer said he and Parks and Landscape Superintendent George Schaaf had discussed that idea, but had concluded it would be impractical.

“If you look at having one powerboat on there, how are we fairly going to do that to the public?” Fischer asked.

Fischer acknowledged the proposed horsepower restriction will have its detractors.

“Some people are going to say it’s not fair that we restrict over 10 … horsepower,” Fischer said. “I understand that.”

No public comment on Auke Lake management was permitted at the meeting, as the plan was placed on the agenda as an information item only.

As staff and committee members waited for a quorum before starting the meeting, attendee Dave Hanna spoke up to criticize the plan.

“No offense, but it’s highly inaccurate,” Hanna said, a longtime resident of Auke Lake. “A lot of it is.”

“Did you make corrections on your copy?” asked committee member Dixie Hood.

“I don’t have enough ink in my pen,” Hanna quipped.

Fischer invited Hanna and others to submit their written comments to him for consideration.

“We kind of need to not go back and forth on this, because we don’t want public comment, please,” Fischer said.

Later, Hanna explained some of his objections to the plan.

“They’re making all these issues that don’t exist,” Hanna complained, challenging claims in the plan about water pollution levels, erosion and lake residents’ alleged “desire to retain the quiet, residential atmosphere of the lake,” among others.

Hanna and fellow attendee Angela Miller, who jet-skis on the lake, also took exception to the recommendation that a park ranger position be created, with Hanna suggesting the intent is for Parks and Recreation to “grow their empire.”

“What do you need a park ranger for if you don’t have any use on the lake?” asked Miller rhetorically. “Because there isn’t going to be any.”

The PRAC will meet again for a special meeting at City Hall on Jan. 29 to discuss the draft plan. It will take public comment on the matter at that time.

Fischer told committee members, “As public comment streams in from tonight on, those will be forwarded to you so that you can include that in part of the evaluation of the plan.”

At Mertl’s suggestion, the PRAC will likely wait until its regular meeting in February to make a recommendation to the Borough Assembly on the plan. It will be up to the Assembly to adopt any new ordinances for Auke Lake management.

• Contact reporter Mark D. Miller at 523-2279 or at mark.d.miller@juneauempire.com.

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MikeyToo
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MikeyToo 01/09/13 - 04:49 pm
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Has anyone asked

Savannah's parents what they think?

cheeesypoof
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cheeesypoof 01/09/13 - 05:13 pm
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concerned,

you say greenies are exploiting this tragedy. Can you please provide us with more details? Did you go door to door and poll the residents of Juneau?

What information do you have, beyond your imagination, that suggests greenies are behind this?

My guess is the residents of Auke Lake are primarily behind this. Are you assuming those who live on Auke Lake are wool socks in birkenstocks folks?

Beyond the residents of Auke Lake I'm guessing it's primarily those who don't use jet skies on Auke Lake who are behind this. You know... old people. You are aware that old people include greenies and non alike, correct? Your assumption seems to be missing this important tidbit.

The nanny state is not a product of greenies or liberals only. The nanny state is a product of old people. Every generation needs to feel like they have contributed. These days most contributions appear to be idiot proofing everything. It's a sad fact of life.

concerned
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concerned 01/09/13 - 05:46 pm
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Cheesypoof

Let me be perfectly clear. My assertion that this is greenie exploitation is an opinion. It is based on the efforts last go around to ban motors from Auke Lake. Last time is was noise, polution, and protection of salmon habitat. Hence the rules that you can not refuel a boat in the parking lot of Auke lake. You can fuel your plane while it sits in the lake but you have to take your boat across the street to dump your five gallon can in it. The last effort was met with significant resistance from many of the homeowners around the lake that have jet skis and want to use the lake. Most of the owners just wanted the lake cut in half so they could still use it without having jet skis in front of their yard. Greenies tried but were unsuccessful in eliminating motors but were successful in limiting their use. Now since enviroment issues wont carry the argument they are jumping on the tragic accident to use safety as their excuse to ban motors. THis is the same crowd that hates snowmachines around Eaglecrest. Go back and look at the record from last time and you will find the evidence to support by opinion.

concerned
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concerned 01/09/13 - 06:00 pm
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Read this Cheesyproof from Friends of Auke Lake

http://juneauempire.com/stories/051806/opi_20060518012.shtml

Noise - the pulsating, 100 decibel, chain saw-like whine of personal watercraft - travels unabated over 100 percent (not the compromise's 65 percent) of the lake's surface, and well beyond, into forests, classrooms, homes and underwater...

Nesting loons, once common, have totally disappeared. In 2005, one loon call was documented. Swans are early spring visitors, but flee as soon as personal-watercraft activity commences (this Easter is one example). Once observed daily in playful groups, single otters are seen only occasionally.

About 100 percent of the shoreline and wetland habitat of this tiny, 168-acre lake is eroded by personal watercraft and skiers who circle at speeds of up to 60 mph to provide waves for thrill-jumping.
...
shows increasing concentrations of hydrocarbons, polycyclic aromatic hydrocarbons, benzene, oil and other pollutants, concentrations that spike during June, July and August. According to Bluewater Network, two-stroke engines can exhaust up to one-third of each tank of gas, at the rate of about 2 gallons per hour, directly into the lake.

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Hischritchens 01/09/13 - 06:06 pm
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@GJSmith

You think I am saying prohibit the planes, I am not, I am saying don't prohibit anything but regulate the use. But if one is to prohibit motorized use to 10 HP, then that has to include planes too. I personally am in favor of opening the entire lake to motorized use as opposed to bottle-necking an already small lake into even smaller parts, as is the current policy.

bjfluetsch
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bjfluetsch 01/09/13 - 07:09 pm
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Let us be clear

the home owners on Auke Lake have been working for decades to make it their private lake with public access eliminated.

It is disgusting that they (the home owners) on Auke Lake are using this tragedy to achieve their political objectives.

Oishi
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Oishi 01/09/13 - 07:39 pm
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We don't need the city to

We don't need the city to protect people from stupidity. Parents need to teach their kids to be safe on the water. Kids need to act responsibly or they'll get hurt. Adults who put kids at risk need to suffer consequences. Limiting horsepower will not increase brainpower.

AKmomof2
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AKmomof2 01/09/13 - 07:59 pm
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Footloose

Does living in Juneau remind you of anything? How about the movie footloose??!! I've lived in this town for thirty years and the only thing that has replaced all the things that have been taken away from us like motorcycles and Bon fires out the road is pill habits and cleptomaniacs. Get a clue. You continue to take things away from kids and they will continue to spiral. We spent our time in the garage working on motorcycles and snow machines for camping on the weekends, kids now spend their time smoking pills and stealing from their family...this isn't rocket science, figure it out juneau.

Latitude58
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Latitude58 01/09/13 - 08:48 pm
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Gee AKmom

Seems like they could be...waxing their snowboards for Eaglecrest, skateboarding at the skateboard park, doing stuff at the aquatic center or fieldhouse, messing with their jetskis and boats for salt water usage... If your kids can't find something to do besides motorized sports, perhaps you should take responsibility for broadening their horizons. But instead, you blame others for your kids' failures.

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sitkaspruce 01/09/13 - 10:20 pm
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I love reading the posting by

I love reading the postings by the same clowns who look for any opportunity to spew and weave their political rhetoric into every topic. If this was your daughter who was killed I highly doubt you would post the same dribble you do day in and day out in regard to this issue.

First I believe it was your Assembly who tasked P&R to deal with this issue. Saying the department and committee needs to be disbanded for developing draft regulations to allow for public comment is just more of your hatred you so freely throw about.

Secondly, many of those that live on the lake are and have been motorized users on the lake for decades and support responsible motorized use.

What has become an issue is the high volume of users on the lake especially on nice days. I have counted over a dozen jet skis, water skiers, a other vessels on a very small lake. Adding tubing, wake boarding and water skiing only adds to the chaos. Then consider youth too young to legally drive but operating a 200 horsepower jet ski pulling their friends on tubes and doing tricks is where we have exceeded a safe environment for recreation on the lake.

I do not have the answer on how to create a safe and fun recreation environment for Auke lake. Yes banning boats larger than 10 hp and not allowing towing of people may be too restrictive but it is a starting point for developing regulations and initiating positive discussion to prevent another of our citizens from being killed.

Instead of just putting people and ideas down; let's have some constructive input that solves the problem and develops meaningful regulations for the lake rather than being another forum for the constant negativity posted daily. As I stated previously, if it was your daughter killed you would have a much different tone to your posting.

AKmomof2
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AKmomof2 01/10/13 - 02:00 pm
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Seriously?

Latitude58 - they do wax their snowboards for a day at eaglecrest that costs me hundreds of dollars a season, well spent to keep them happy, but not all are afforded the luxury. They have also skateboarded at the skatepark, all the while I spent trying to field them from the unsupervised fowl mouth kids that hang out there. I'd love to bring them to the field house, and have when there's not soccer or tot time. And we have spent many many hours at the aquatic center, again, when I have $40 to drop on a few hours of fun, and again, not something all can afford to do. And as for letting them ride jetskis in open water, really? That sounds incredibly responsible and far more safe than a small lake. Clearly you don't have kids. My point is not that they cannot find other things to do, my point is that they enjoy doing those things as well and Juneau restricts these activities to a rediculous level. My kids are not failures, the ignorance from people like you in this community is an epic failure.

hug-em-then-cut-em
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hug-em-then-cut-em 01/09/13 - 09:57 pm
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Sitka Well Said

Unpublished

Mr Hanna stated that the Auke Lake plan was full of misinformation and so are many of the comments on this article. The Assembly requested Parks and Recs to come up with a plan just the same way they asked CBJ engineering to look into AJ mine water issues.

There is also a general lack of respect for opinions of others in these posts. Savannah's parents grew up here and I find it really sad how little respect is paid to them outside of the usual lip service about condolences, sorry for your loss. Many folks should be ashamed of themselves for their mean spirited comments.

SubaruSally
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SubaruSally 01/09/13 - 11:47 pm
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bjfluetsch - aka HYPOCRITE

Today you said "It is disgusting that they (the home owners) on Auke Lake are using this tragedy to achieve their political objectives."

Remember when you said this:

bjfluetsch 08/15/12 - 06:16 am sympathies to the families
but the need for a second crossing was demonstrated clearly for all to see. It is time Juneau face the reality that our transportation system is a disaster waiting to happen.

in response to the motorcycle accident last summer?

How does the response from the property owners around Auke Lake differ from you using the loss of a young mans life to push for a second crossing to Douglas?

bjfluetsch
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bjfluetsch 01/10/13 - 06:09 am
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a little different circumstance Subaru

In my case, it was about solving a real problem in the community when Egan is closed putting other community members at risk.

Auke Lake residents are doing it for personal, self enrichment reasons.

curmudgeon
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curmudgeon 01/10/13 - 12:36 pm
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Time to ban motors on the lake

It's time to ban motors on the lake. I don't want my taxes to go up just to police this lake which is always overcrowded on nice days because motorheads insist on disobeying all rules.

If folks want to use PWCs or go water skiing there are hundreds of square miles of salt water to play in. When I was a kid we never water skied on on the lake, but in salt water.

I'd like to see loons and swans back on the lake, and have the floating trail used for what it was intended for, not for a dock for irresponsible boaters and jetski operators.

h82luz
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h82luz 01/14/13 - 09:27 am
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WOW... PRAC just OWNED you!

I guess next we will all have to ask Brent if we can use his lake? Oh wait a minute PRAC does not own the lake!

Time to give PRAC the boot and replace them with real people like Miller and Hannah who can develop a comprehensive plan for all.

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