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My Turn: On slavery and the moral order

Posted: October 31, 2012 - 12:00am

Bishop Edward J. Burns’ column, “Faith, politics, and the election,” makes a curious argument regarding Vice President Biden’s position on abortion, in particular the way in which it differs from the Bishop’s beliefs and those of Congressman Paul Ryan.

Bishop Burns argues if politicians who personally oppose abortion (like Vice President Biden), but would not impose their beliefs on others, thought the same way about slavery, “...How much further behind would we be in civil rights and the understanding of human dignity if they were to have said that he personally was against the slavery of African Americans but did not want to impose their moral stance on slave-owners so that they and everyone else could have the ability to choose?” The Bishop goes on to say we might not have an African American president today if this were true.

This is quite a tortured argument, but one I feel I must address.

The Bishop, Congressman Ryan, the Catholic Church, and the Republican Party all believe that life begins at conception, and they oppose abortion in all circumstances—rape, incest, and even if the mother will die from complications of pregnancy.

In response to the Bishop, I ask the question: how much further behind would we be in civil rights and the understanding of a woman’s dignity if the U.S. Supreme Court in Roe vs. Wade had not decided that a woman’s right to privacy extends to her decision to have an abortion?

If our country is governed by men like Mitt Romney and Paul Ryan, who have vowed to make abortion a criminal act, American women, Catholic and non-Catholic, will be made slaves to unwanted pregnancies even if the pregnancy will result in the woman’s death.

Bishop Burns states, “The attack against the very essence of human life, such as abortion, constitutes an intrinsic evil.”

Is not “the very essence of human life” the woman who bears the child? How then does Bishop Burns justify prohibiting an abortion that would save the life of the mother?

There are many questions relating to how “…believers and non-believers decide how we should uphold the common good and a natural moral order by exercising our right to vote,” in the Bishop’s words. I will cast my ballot for President Obama and Vice President Biden who share my beliefs.

I believe the common good and natural moral order are better served when a woman can make her own private medical decisions and not become a slave and perhaps even die because of conditions imposed by others.

• Metcalfe is Alaska’s Democratic National Committeewoman. She is a former Catholic who left the church in the 1960s because of its positions against women.

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snagger
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snagger 10/31/12 - 06:43 am
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Do what you want

Metcalfe--Vote as you want but don't mischaracterize Republican candidates' positions!

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Alaskastu 10/31/12 - 06:57 am
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No need to tell us rough...

We could smell your desperation with each blank post. But don't worry, when Obama wins you at least don't have to worry about your personal freedoms being threatened. The same cant be said if things would have went the other way. So glad the average age of republicans is getting older while the democratic and independent party's are holding a younger age.

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Durian 10/31/12 - 07:21 am
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Try as they might

To change public opinion regarding abortion in the past few decades, conservative religionists have not been successful. A politician has an obligation to represent the interests of his constituency, which is exactly what Mr. Biden is doing. Since the law states that women have the right to decide how to handle their pregnancies without being hassled about it, it's about time for the Bishop and other strident protesters to cease and desist with the browbeating. Furthermore, the activists and politicians who've disengenuously worked to regulate abortion clinics out of practice in several states should be held accountable and prosecuted for illegal activity.

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Latitude58 10/31/12 - 07:43 am
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First it's abortion, then...

...contraception and unmarried sexual relations. The catholic church has deemed ALL of them to be intrinsically evil.

Just imagine how many criminals we'll have then? The squads of morality police kicking down the doors of the condom suppliers. Righteous parents turning in their sons to the police for their naughty acts.

The beatings will continue until moral(ity) improves.

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concerned 10/31/12 - 07:48 am
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So answer me this Miss. Metcalf

Do you believe a late term abortion at any time prior to passing through the vaginal canal should be legal? Do you believe that an abortion performed one hour before delivery should be legal in the United States?

Bet you she does. Also bet you she won't have the guts to answer.

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Alaskastu 10/31/12 - 07:55 am
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Way to grasp at straws

Way to grasp at straws concerned. I'll be she doesn't and if she sees this she would. I've never met anyone or read an opinion where they support late term abortions.

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MikeDziuba 10/31/12 - 07:56 am
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Elephants don't have souls

Or so I've been told, but the elephant in this room is the very claim that souls exist.

Nobody who is religious dares to bring up that four letter word in public. Have you noticed? It has no currency in industrialized nations anymore. As well it shouldn't.

Science is the coveted commodity and Big Faith knows this.

Unfortunately for them, people of faith have painted themselves into a corner. Their sperm/ova conception arguments are not scientifically sound and words like person and personhood are only societal constructs, not absolutes.

It's ironic, really, how reductionist-minded (usually a pejorative word used against freethinkers) the religious have become when it comes to discussing just what human life supposedly is.

This is a good letter with excellent questions. It rightfully acknowledges the inclusion of the woman in the pregnancy equation. A woman, I might add, who is without a doubt a person, with acknowledged and protected rights. It's those rights, those known rights, of the woman, who is a person, which must take priority over scientific uncertainty if any sense of morality is to be upheld.

Mike

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kpawsuh 10/31/12 - 08:02 am
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Anyone who has raised a

Anyone who has raised a teenager has contemplated late term abortion, very late term...

Latitude58
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Latitude58 10/31/12 - 08:04 am
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Hypothetical question

A woman is 8 months pregnant when, for whatever reason, she decides to have an abortion. Obviously she won't find any medical person willing to do that, so she decides to do it herself with a coat hangar.

It's a repulsive act, and one that's hard to conceive of, but has she violated any federal or Alaskan law?

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haccjla 10/31/12 - 08:22 am
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No Tax Dollars

There may very well be those situations that justify and abortion, and I agree that this is a decision to made by the woman and her loved ones and not the Government. However, I do not feel that the American Tax payer should have to have their hard earned tax dollars being spent on abortion. If a woman decides to have an abortion, then she should pay for it herself without taxpayers having to pay.

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billb 10/31/12 - 08:11 am
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Woman Rights

A woman's rights is up to the woman,and or man, to make the decision as to how or when birth control is needed. The church has NO right to impose their beliefs on the country as a whole. Is the Bishop that there are many Catholics that practice birth control?

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concerned 10/31/12 - 08:31 am
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Alaskastu straws or discussion

“Barack Obama heartlessly refused to support a ban on sex-selection abortion and late-term abortions past the point at which unborn children feel pain, he voted four times to deny constitutional protection to children born alive after a failed abortion – preferring to leave their fate to the abortionist who, only moments before, sought to kill them,” Dannenfelser said.

Why is it grasping straws to discuss late term abortions within the abortion debate? Pro abortionists don't like to because it necessarily and logically moves to drawing arbitrary lines for when an abortion is a medical procedure and when it is murder.

Lets all agree that killing a child still attached by an umbilical cord but born is wrong and would be murder...right? So let's discuss when it's not. How about half way born? A quarter? An hour prior? A day? A week? A month? Or is it 29 days out or 30? How about at viability? Medicine continues to move that time back. What is not viable today may be viable tomorrow. This is fact oriented policy formation yet pro abortion advocates will deride it and refuse to engage.

Wonder why...?

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concerned 10/31/12 - 08:35 am
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Latitude 58

The answer is no she has not.

concerned
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concerned 10/31/12 - 08:40 am
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Latitude 58 or

Lets say a woman is traveling in an ambulance in labor to the hospital but the ambulance gets hit by a drunk driver with a suspended license and directly because of injuries sustained by the wreck the fetus/baby dies.

Is it manslaughter? (Or person slaughter) Not legally.

And if we tried to make it manslaughter Miss Metcalf would oppose it out of fear it could restrict late term abortions.

Correct me if I'm wrong Miss Metcalf.

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Grendel 10/31/12 - 08:55 am
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@Ms Metcalfe

1. You have to include the VP in the “life begins at conception” statement. This is important because his private convictions then are inconsistent with his public statements. But he always gets a pass because that's just Silly Joey.

2. Arguments about rape, incest, and even unwanted pregnancies take a backseat to the primary question: When does life begin? Come to terms with that one, and then addressing the “what ifs” comes into play.

3. It is inconsistent in method to defer to ignorance, saying Who knows? After all, American judicial system holds that – what is it? – a hundred guilty men should go free rather than convict an innocent. Maybe it was a thousand guilty? Anyway, that notion gets checked at the door when it comes to the unborn because it is convenient to say, “who knows when life begins?” No reason to err on the side of prudence there. So what if we’re wrong, or feel icky at the thought of a heartbeat squashed? Terminate it anyway. Does that about sum up the decision process?

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Latitude58 10/31/12 - 09:05 am
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@haccjla & concerned

haccjla, I see your point. But what if my faith says that organ transplants or blood transfusions are wrong (some faiths do say that), or I'm morally opposed to xrays or blood tests? Where is the line drawn where personal beliefs and morality can dictate government policy?

concerned - good questions. The issue about viability being pushed further back is apt. So what happens if a woman wishes to terminate a pregnancy at the 4 month point, and medical technology has advanced so that fetus is viable, but it will cost $2 million to save the child and an ongoing lifetime expense of $1 million per year due to the complications of being born in such an undeveloped state?

Who pays for that? The mother? The insurance company? The government? The church?

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Latitude58 10/31/12 - 09:10 am
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Grendel

The question that goes hand-in-hand with 'when does life begin' is 'what is life worth'?

If all human life has equal value, regardless of its situation, then there are some glaring inconsistencies in our healthcare and military policies. And no doubt elsewhere if we begin to look.

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Raininak 10/31/12 - 09:19 am
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Fun subject.

I for one think that if the church choose to push their beliefs into public policy (their right), I don't think they should be afforded preferential tax treatment. Choose, become a lobbying entity (and be taxed accordingly) or stay a religious house and keep your poltical statements to yourself.

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wmolson 10/31/12 - 09:57 am
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The real questions and possible conclusions become complicated

When talking about abortion, "personhood," when a fetus becomes a "human" the debate has been going on for decades, and probably will go on for generations more.
Twenty-five or thirty years ago, some evangelical Christian preachers and teachers said the "life begins at birth." Then they switched to what many say today, "human life begins" the second the human egg and sperm unite. Its true, that if a new human comes into existence, the start is at the union of the gametes - the egg and sperm.
I don't agree with either of the two positions that a zygote (embryo) becomes a full human person at the instant of the union of gametes, or that human life only begins at birth. I think the embryo becomes a human person somewhere in between - but when that takes place, I cannot determine. I leave that up to biologists, medical experts, philosophers and perhaps theologians to debate. Maybe they can come up with an acceptable compromise or agreement.
Meanwhile, if a woman becomes pregnant against her will, is raped or there is some sexual crime, in the early stages of pregnancy she, her husband if she married, her family, her doctor must make a decision. It remains a complex issue and a major decision in life.

I certainly don't think one theology, one religious belief or one assumption has the right to try and force their opinion on others who may have different beliefs.
That's my reasoning and opinion.

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Grendel 10/31/12 - 10:09 am
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@Lat58

Life's worth is a cultural consideration, which appeals to our ethics. Every time a baby falls down a well in TX, the whole country gets mobilized or glued to the media to find out how that baby is doing. Why?

Then again, Somali women will have a dozen babies, maybe half make it past weaning age -- and not always because of disease. When it's the family goat or the youngest child, sometimes the goat wins. How else are they going to get milk and curds?

Considerations of convenience aside, when life begins is a scientific question. Science presents all the facts for interpretation. That interpretation may be influenced by our ethical framework, but when we compromise our ethics because they are inconvenient in the face of fact, we have a problem. The pro-abortion lobby has a problem.

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swimmergirl 10/31/12 - 10:44 am
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Grendel -

So, how is it "ethical" to exchange the life of the, say, 24-year old mother, for the potential, maybe viable fetus (which, by the way, can't grow without the mother) which might not make it to gestation?

If a woman has an ectopic pregnancy, shall we just allow the fetus to grow until it kills her? This is what Ryan is advocating.

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swimmergirl 10/31/12 - 10:48 am
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Rough Cut

You so clearly don't understand women. At all.

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swimmergirl 10/31/12 - 10:49 am
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the point of this

discussion is that the religious right don't want to have a medical, scientific discussion about when life begins.

They simply want to force their beliefs on people who don't believe them.

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adcme9 10/31/12 - 10:50 am
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How about Romney

Bishop Burns' articles remind me a lot of Lew Williams' articles - their facts omitted or twisted, and shamelessly politically slanted.

Perhaps next article Bishop Burns could write about Mitt Romney's religious views and the Papal Bulls regarding Mormonism.

For me, I am thankful that VP Biden understands he should not impose his religious theology on others. That's how they roll in Afghanistan.

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hoonahfish 10/31/12 - 11:08 am
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life

i would appreciate an explanation from Ms. Metcalf on the topic of the baby's rights. At what point does the baby have rights?

There's a lot of talk about the mother's right to choose to keep or abort her child, but where is the line drawn? If we were to consider viability, shouldn't we pick the earliest stage where a baby would be viable outside the womb, and then set it back a week or so just to be safe?

Why do democrats consistently vote against bans on partial-birth abortion? Who in their right mind would consider that humane procedure in any way, shape, or form? And yet the pro-abortion crowd defends it like it is a basic human right.

Another interesting parallel for this topic is a criminal with a death sentence. Abortion-rights activists are typically vehemently opposed to the death penalty, mainly because an innocent person could mistakenly be convicted. What about the innocent babies who are physically torn from their mother's womb? What if Albert Einstein or Mother Theresa had been a victim of their mother's "rights"?

The pro-life politicians are not trying to infringe on a woman's rights, they are defending the innocent. Isn't that a worthy cause? Before you send in your money to SEACC to protect some wetland creatures, think about defending an unborn child - donate to pregnancy counseling centers - help a young, scared, pregnant girl make the right choice. Save a human life.

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Raininak 10/31/12 - 11:11 am
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Guarantee

I think a push to allow men to carry a baby like Arnold in the movie Junior would change this discussion quite quickly. It is easier to continue to subjugate the "weaker" sex than it is to lift them up as equals.

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Grendel 10/31/12 - 11:29 am
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@Swimmergirl

believe it or not, I do not issue papal bulls. I am saying that to proceed into your "what-if" domain, first you have to come to terms with what you are dealing with. Makes big difference -- matter of life & death -- if your ethics dictate that that thing gestating inside you is a baby.

If not a baby, why not? Because the govt tells you it's not? Because you never felt him kick, or listen to her heartbeat? Or because it is easier not to think of it that way.

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snagger 10/31/12 - 12:11 pm
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What if........

Sg-----It's just convenient?

Latitude58
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Latitude58 10/31/12 - 12:17 pm
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A new disease appears

Maybe because of GMO's or some other genetic monkey business. Who knows?

But it's 100% fatal without intervention. The only effective intervention is to connect the patient up to a healthy person so the healthy person's organs can sustain the sick person for the next 6 months. The catch - there has to be a perfect match between the two people, and it's a 1 in billion chance of a match.

But life is sacred, so the government passes a law that if you are found to be a perfect match, you must accept having this stranger connected to you for the next 6 months, 24/7. And no, you will not be compensated for your trouble.

How does this differ from rape or incest?

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wmolson 10/31/12 - 12:25 pm
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Ethics can be extremely complex

As I commented earlier, the long debate over when a new zygote (a new living being) started by the conjunction of two gametes (human egg and sperm) is a "human person" with all the rights of a human being has been, and will continue to be an extended debate. Then there are other extended debates about the taking of human life - such as warfare, death penalty, or if two lives are at risk and it is a question of one life or the other and which has the greater right to survival, the debate becomes even more complicated.
In any real and good debate there has to be facts, evidence, information, knowledge and then debaters who are knowledgeable about the facts and issues
As I read the comment I sometimes wonder if those commenting understand the complexity of the facts and issues.
For example one commentator mentioned "ectopic pregnancy." What is "ectopic pregnancy? It is when the embryo anchors to some place outside the uterus and begins to grow. 98% of the time it occurs in the fallopian tubes. Medical experts will tell you that in 99+% of these cases (some say 100% of the time) that embryo will never develop into a living human being. And there is an extremely high possibility that it will, if allowed to continue growing, kill the woman in a relatively short time in cases in which this occurs. So to allow it to increase in size, with almost zero possibility of ever developing into a viable fetus, and at the same time subjecting the woman to increasing possibility of death, what choices should the woman, her husband, or family or medical practitioner make.
Anyway one considers it, it is a very difficult decision. But it is a decision that has to be made very early in a pregnancy.

Ethics and especially modern medical ethics is a complex study and requires those involved in making decisions to be very knowledgeable.... it is not an area for amateurs.

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