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Analyst: AK could see savings with pension deposit

Posted: February 9, 2012 - 1:08am

JUNEAU — The state could save $5.3 billion in payments to Alaska’s troubled public employees’ retirement system by putting $2 billion into a reserve fund now, a legislative fiscal analyst said Wednesday.

David Teal, director of the Legislative Finance Division, told the Senate Finance Committee the $2 billion would raise the system’s funding ratio, or ratio of assets to liabilities, as it would be used by the Alaska Retirement Management Board in calculating its assets.

Such a deposit also would save about $2 billion in annual contributions in the next five years alone, as compared to what the state would pay without one, while maintaining an employer contribution rate of no more than 22 percent, according to information provided during the hearing.

Teal said the state would be able to recover its initial $2 billion, though not for decades. The bill, SB187, would set up a new reserve fund and feature a trigger intended to prevent future legislatures from raiding it. It does not specifically call for a $2 billion deposit, but that figure is being used as a starting point for discussions on the issue.

The committee is considering ways to address $11 billion in unfunded pension liabilities between the public employees’ and teachers’ retirement systems.

Wednesday’s discussion, which was relatively brief, focused on the public employees’ system. Committee co-chair Bert Stedman, R-Sitka, told reporters Tuesday that lawmakers will need to deal with both systems. He said each will take more than a $1 billion to address and has pegged a total overall range at $2 billion to $4 billion.

High oil prices have helped line Alaska’s coffers: the state has an estimated $10 billion in the constitutional budget reserve fund alone.

But this is just one of the challenges facing lawmakers. Oil production is declining, and by one estimate, the state could be in deficit spending by fiscal year 2015, even with relatively modest capital budgets, by recent standards, if agency operating budgets continue to grow at an average of 7.8 percent.

Gov. Sean Parnell last week said he’d rather see the state stay on its current payment plan, under which payments would increase before they fall, or move to a level-pay plan than have an equity deposit that would essentially be off limits if the state got in a financial bind.

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Latitude58
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Latitude58 02/09/12 - 08:19 am
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Corrected statement

--Gov. Sean Parnell last week said he’d rather see the billions go to his past & future employer, ExxonMobile, than give it to some sniveling old teachers and state workers who need it to survive in their declining years.--

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Jo MacNamara 02/09/12 - 08:45 am
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I agree

Take the $2 billion/year the Governor wants to give the oil companies, put it in the fund.

Problem solved.

hellojuneau1
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hellojuneau1 02/09/12 - 09:20 am
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The two "brothers" - Lat & Mac

Run for Governor and Lt Governor and show us how it should be done. hmmmm! who will run for Governor and who will run for Lt Governor?

skyview
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skyview 02/09/12 - 10:09 am
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hellowjuneau - In recent

hellowjuneau - In recent posts you indicated that you moved from Juneau, that you missed your house, that you were on your way to Greece....let go and be gone. enjoy your new life.

skyview
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skyview 02/09/12 - 10:37 am
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Alaska needs Water Treatment infrastructure

Our state needs to invest in Water Treatment Infrastructures especially at Cook Inlet.

Cook Inlet is a toxic waste dumping ground for the oil and gas industry and minimally treated sewer. Billions of gallons of toxic waste is dumped into the inlet every year.

the area has been granted clean water act waivers from epa for years.

While our state has the resources lets invest in this clean up for the sake of our kids. Lets not leave it for them.

barnardj1
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barnardj1 02/09/12 - 10:46 am
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Once again, Parnell's out in

Once again, Parnell's out in la-la land.

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Joanne 02/09/12 - 11:52 am
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1 ton a day of chlorine is also dumped into Cook Inlet

Skyview didn't mention that 1 ton of chlorine is dumped into Cook inlet every day to control the smell. The Asplund plant is antiquated. There is a 800 ft long pipe that goes right into Cook Inlet. People wonder where are all the fish going? Folks, "we" are killing all the fish. Let's use our public resources dollars and revamp this antiquated plant and protect our fisheries and Alaskan jobs.

Sync
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Sync 02/09/12 - 01:06 pm
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I think the problem with

I think the problem with giving kids education that the rest of the nation has ... is that as they get older, they get smarter. And as they get smarter, they leave Alaska ...

blackdog
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blackdog 02/09/12 - 03:32 pm
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The sooner that money gets

The sooner that money gets put to good use the better. The way the dollar is being devalued that pile of cash will be worth half in 20 years. Time to invest in something like natural gaslines, oil exploration, hydro projects, heatpump retrofits for public buildings and anything else we can think of that would be an investment in the future.

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swimmergirl 02/09/12 - 04:10 pm
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blackdog - I wonder

how many people who gripe about unions and people's retirement (you didn't, but your comment suggests you'd like to see those funds spent elsehwere) would do the following:

You hire someone you know, a friend or neighbor with construction experience, to work on your house. Put in new windows, paint, whatever. You agree on a price for the labor before the job begins, and a timeline for the work to be completed. If it's a multi-year job, your neighbor negotiates a slightly higher hourly rate for the second year.

Once the work is completed, you tell your neighbor thanks for the work, but he's out of luck, because you didn't save all the money needed to pay him, deciding instead to buy a new water heater, dishwasher and TV, in order to save yourself some energy money, and get more friends to come over and watch the game.

Essentially, this is exactly what anyone who does not pay down retirement indebtedness is proposing...

blackdog
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blackdog 02/09/12 - 04:19 pm
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I think state of Alaska

I think state of Alaska employees have a pretty cushy gig and in general unions protect underperforming employees more than they should but the state is obligated to honor the contracts they have agreed to.

Sync
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Sync 02/09/12 - 04:57 pm
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It would be nice if that was

It would be nice if that was true. I know for a fact that GG union first and foremost looks after the union first, then union members second. I have witness this 3 times with my tenure with the state due to the union's refusal to do their job.

Perhaps you are talking about a different union?

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vrlind 02/09/12 - 08:39 pm
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fiscal calculation for Retirement deposit savings?

Anyone know where a person can see the calculations and assumptions used by Teal to reach his conclusion that $2 mil now saves $5 million later. Like most things: it seems too good to be true it probably isn't true in the real world.

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