JUNEAU — The majority leader of the Alaska Senate said Tuesday he is looking at introducing legislation that would define when an abortion is “medically necessary.”
Sen. John Coghill’s comments at an anti-abortion rally on the state Capitol steps were greeted by applause.
Coghill, R-North Pole, was the main speaker at the rally, which was held in conjunction with the 40th anniversary of the U.S. Supreme Court decision that legalized abortion. A number of other lawmakers, mainly Republicans, also attended.
The Alaska Supreme Court has held that the state must fund medically necessary abortions if it funds other procedures deemed medically necessary for people in need. A legislative legal opinion last year, however, said it’s not clear what makes an abortion medically necessary, and that it’s likely only further litigation will provide greater clarity.
The opinion stemmed from proposed state regulations of abortion payments.
Coghill said in an interview after the rally that he has talked with colleagues in both the House and Senate and is looking to introduce a bill with specifics once he gets more information. He said he hopes to the best of his ability to answer some of the questions the state Supreme Court had and to make a policy call on state funding of abortions.
Coghill told the more than 100 people gathered for Tuesday’s rally in Juneau that abortion is sin, and “a shame on America.” He said with abortion, God is not honored.
While there are other issues for lawmakers to take up, such as energy needs for Alaskans, Coghill said that doesn’t mean that social issues — like abortion — cannot be taken up, as well.
Sara Kiesler, a spokeswoman for Planned Parenthood Votes Northwest, said any restriction on access to abortions would be “blatant government overreach.”
“The fact of the matter is, in the real world, women don’t turn to politicians for advice about birth control, mammograms or cancer screenings,” she said.





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There is nothing flawed about our current system that needs to take the time of our elected officials. Are they acting on religious beliefs? Our elected officials need to stay focused on the tasks at hand...Economically crippling fuel prices, education, housing, an ever encroaching Fed Gov. the list goes on.
Expertise
In the last session of the Legislature, in trying to set a fair price for our oil, the Senate Finance and Resource committee sought the advice and expertise from some independent, international experts knowledgeable regarding the oil industry.
If the current Senate plans to determine when and under what conditions an abortion is "medically necessary," I hope they too call upon independent, knowledgeable medical experts to assist them in their efforts.
Hypocrisy
Sara Kiesler, a spokeswoman for Planned Parenthood Votes Northwest, said any restriction on access to abortions would be “blatant government overreach.”
I wonder if Sara believes the almost half a billion dollars in government money Planned Parenthood received last year to terminate human lives is also “blatant government overreach.”??
Way to go...
Defining "medically necessary" is an appropriate legislative function, one of the reasons we elect representatives and senators; far better than arbitrary court decisions.
double standard
Some commenters think it's up to the legislators to define 'medically necessary', but they're the same ones who were screaming about 'death panels' under Obamacare.
Not determined by committee!
I would leave the definition of “medically necessary” to the medical community. This is nothing more than trying to regulate morality, can’t be done ethically. The Doctor will tell a woman if and when an abortion is necessary for medical reasons. If it is done otherwise, it is not up to the people of the state to fund it! It would then be termed “elective”
That'd be a first...
"and that it’s likely only further litigation will provide greater clarity." - Like litigation has ever made things clear?
"He said with abortion, God is not honored." - What happened to seperation of church and state?
Who trumps who?
Dr. says it is needed, state definition says no? Who gets the call?
Good reason to vote for
Good reason to vote for Democrats in 2014
Our Government cannot force
Our Government cannot force religious beliefs on people.
John Coghill if you are going to call people sinners and make a law based on honoring a god you should first prove that there really is a god.
same old
Again Republicans try to legislate women. Old white guys who have problems with "them uppity women out of the kitchen again". When is the Republican party going to learn that their jobs are not to regulate morality or impose their religious beliefs upon the rest of us, but to follow the Constitution which if I recall has a section about "separation of church and state". The party of "small govt." strikes again!
Seems like...
Medically necessary and convenient seem to be the same for several people concerned about beliefs and rights!
The problem with leaving the
The problem with leaving the decision of a "medically necessary" abortion up to the doctors is wholly political. Doctors and organizations like Planned Parenthood and even the AMA are progressive, political advocates for abortions.
It's the same with medical marijuana prescriptions. The states that allow it found that only a handful of doctors were writing the majority of the prescriptions. It becomes a whole industry, unto itself.
It might be a better idea to put more cut and dry parameters on state and federally funded abortions. Alaska presently has waiting period and parental notification laws but manditory ultrasound screenings and video presentations, as well as limiting later term abortions, would help to decrease the numbers of abortions performed. And we pro-life people have been told by the pro-abortion people that everybody wants less abortions. Right?
Here's the best idea, however. Get the federal and state governments out of the abortion business and the prices would fall like a rock. Then abortions would be affordable for all - said with tongue in cheek.
HOW MANY CHILDREN DOES COGHILL HAVE?
Was he ever a foster parent? Take in a homeless child? Donate to charities that support mothers keeping their children rather than having abortions and is he willing to fund them until the child is old enough to go to school and they can get a job? Don't posture you old [filtered word] -- stand up and put your money where your mouth is.
Man, these pro-abortion
Man, these pro-abortion advocates are a nasty, vitriolic bunch. If I wrote half of the derogatory words they have, I'd be banned. I guess what's good for the goose doesn't really apply to the ruling class. Sheeeesh...
And this coming from the bunch that just wants us all to "get along". Such hypocrisy.
Besides bringing up the death penalty, the next seemingly cogent argument in the minds of the pro-abortion people is the plight of the unwanted children after birth.
That seems to be an admission of the failure of the adults in the society. Ususally when we craft a solution to a problem, we go back to the very beginning - and that's where the anti-abortion advocates would like the discussion to be. Way before the "deed" was done.
But abstinence is too old fashioned to the pro-abortion folks, we've been told. Religion is stupid too. Marriage is poo poo, except in certain instances and on and on with the progressive agenda.
So, what's a kid or young adult or liberal adult to think - well, that's easy - if it feels good, do it. America has some really easy, convenient solutions to get rid of the "problem".
See how stupid your argument is?
Rough Cut
Congratulations - you win the award from commentators today for the most stupid comment of the day - totally irrelevant, senseless and insulting.
We will watch again tomorrow to see if you again are a winner or loser.
Hey human, it's Olson. Like
Hey human, it's Olson. Like Wally M. Olson.
Lighten up with rc, it's a joke. We need some levity once in awhile.
Rough Cut
Speaking of ars.....
Can't you find another forum for your tasteless invective?
Calypso got it right
I am not a "doctor", even though some folks call me that.I'm just an old guy who came to Alaska more than fifty years ago, long before the oil industry, Native land claims and those things, and have lived in all parts of Alaska except the Peninsula and Aleutians and taught for decades at the University both in Fairbanks and Juneau.
My life was transformed through living with and among Native Alaskans and long time Alaskans, then with Japanese and Mexicans, and now I am just an old retired guy.
So, Calypso is correct. As I told students as we began classes, "I'm a student in this class just like you. My name is Wally." I don't use a pseudonym or some name when I write an article or comment.
The title, "doctor Olson" is not correct.
Please refer to me as just "Wally"
"He said with abortion, God
"He said with abortion, God is not honored."
WTFrak!?! Don't they realize how silly this statement is?
Most anti-choicers, anti-privacy people hold the view that all birth control is an abortion as it flaunts their god's law.
Many, if not all of these anti-choicers, anti-privacy people also hold that if a woman is raped and is impregnated by her rapist, that that child is a gift from their god.
Many, if not all of these anti-choicers, anti-privacy people also hold that if a woman is raped by a family member and impregnated by her rapist, that that child is a gift from their god.
Many, if not all of these anti-choicers, anti-privacy people also hold that if a woman's life is threatened by the pregnancy she cannot have an abortion.
That the opinion of these people can demand any respect or consideration in public policy is ridiculous. That they wrap this obscene and illegal intrusion into another person’s life in the "freedom of religion" is even more ridiculous.
I will also direct you to check out Article 1, Sections 14 and 22 of the Alaska Constitution: "The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses and other property, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated." and "The right of the people to privacy is recognized and shall not be infringed. The legislature shall implement this section."
The State has absolutely no business being in a woman's body.
I would also point you to Article 1, Section 1 "This constitution is dedicated to the principles that all persons have a natural right to life, liberty, the pursuit of happiness, and the enjoyment of the rewards of their own industry; that all persons are equal and entitled to equal rights, opportunities, and protection under the law; and that all persons have corresponding obligations to the people and to the State."
Senator Coghill has a Constitutional obligation to protect the rights of the people.
Section 2 reads: "All political power is inherent in the people. All government originates with the people, is founded upon their will only, and is instituted solely for the good of the people as a whole." Senator Coghill has voted for banning abortions in instances that protect the lives of mothers. Essentially advocating for a law that would endanger the lives of mothers across this state. This is in clear violation of Section 2.
And finally Section 4: No law shall be made respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof." Senator Coghill is clearly intends on establishing a law based upon his personal religious beliefs. Again, in clear violation of the Alaska Constitution.
Senator Coghill has taken an oath to uphold and defend the Alaska Constitution. He clearly does not understand what the Alaska Constitution means and its strong protection of personal privacy.
The only person who should be making decisions about their bodies is that individual.
There...
There are democrats. People who believe they can make all the choices in the world for you except when to have an abortion and who to have sex with.
There are republicans. People who believe in deregulating everything, but vote to regulate all of it. People who believe in free society, except tell people who they can/can't sleep with and when an abortion should take place.
Dem's preach control for the good of the many yet want no rules regarding sex or abortion. Rep's preach freedom unless it's against their religion. Never understood how the control group isn't the one to control sex and abortion yet the anti-control group wants control of your body parts and family dynamic.
Then there are libertarians. People who believe that other's should stay out of their lives as long as it doesn't affect them/others. People who are not hypicritical in that they realize they are imperfect; therefore, don't feel they should tell others how to live or what they can/can't do with their property. People that believe in Amendment 10 where states have the right to pass their own laws. People who believe in the Constitution and the rights guaranteed therein.
Sorry, dem's should learn to stay out of other's lives and rep's should learn that we are not required to have the same religious beliefs they have.
FYI, if this legislation passed it would be constitutionally legal. Abortion is not mentioned in the Constitution; therefore, it is covered under Amendment 10, leaving the choice up to the state or the people respectively. Unlike the feds trying to tell states that legalize marijuana they are acting illegally. Marijuana is also not mentioned in the Constitution therefore is also covered under Amendment 10. To understand how the feds could make marijuana illegal nationally, please see Amendment 18 and Amendment 21.
El Boorba and others
More than fifty years ago, I worked for two summers in a rather small hospital as an orderly. During that time, changing my clothes to go work alongside medical doctors, talking with them, working with them I learned that the practice of medicine is extremely complex. It is an "art" in that using all the science, skills and knowledge they have, daily decisions concerning patients is not easy nor simple.
In my studies of biology, genetics, human evolution, people and cultures in many cases there are no easy and simplistic answers to problems.
Yes, among all biological creatures using sexual reproduction, the instant a male sperm and female egg come in contact, that is the beginning of a new life, a zygote or "living being." But that does not mean that at that instant the living cells are frogs, dogs, fish, humans or birds. To become whatever they may possibly become takes a time of "gestation." For humans that means normally nine months from conception to birth.
During that time the DNA of cells, the nutrition of the woman carrying the child, accidents, and other factors all may determined whether or not the two cells that came together result in a new human or not. The initial union of an egg and sperm is the beginning, but to say that at that instant those two cells, microscopically small, comprise a "human person," is biologically an assumption. Certainly, after nine months, if all goes well, there is no doubt that the fetus a woman carries is another "human being." In the meantime, if the chemicals produced by DNA do not work as they should, exactly on time and in proper sequence, producing the chemicals required, the woman may experience a "miscarriage." That is, the new embryo or fetus is rejected from her body. That might be called a natural abortion. Of course logically, that would make "Mother Nature" or "God" an "abortionist." It happens quite often.
In some cases, such as "ectopic pregnancy" where the new cell combination anchors not in the womb as normal, but in the fallopian tubes, the embryo or fetus will never survive to birth. In the meantime, as it grows it may bring about the death of the woman bearing that embryo or fetus. Then both the fetus and mother will die. When doctors determine that is what is happening, they must immediately remove the cells growing in the wrong place, to preserve the mother's life. It can be called an "abortion", but it is a matter of preserving one life (that of the mother) rather than the life of a fetus (that in no way will live long enough to be born) and that of the mother.
There are many, many other factors involved in the sequence between the union of a human egg and sperm and the production of new human being. A simple "living cell combination" is not necessarily a living human person. The possibility it there but sometime between conception and birth, if all goes well, there becomes a new human "person."
In all of this complexity of biology, genetics, gestation I personally think that for state legislators to write a law, or modify a law, saying that they will determine when it is "medically necessary" to terminate a pregnancy, quite presumptive.
On top of this, if a woman is raped, and impregnated against her will, or in some way is impregnated and foreign cells have invaded her body and are growing there, she should have some time in which to reject the injustice and foreign cells.
I hope that Alaska State Legislators, do what they were elected to do. That is determine the budget, the economy, the future of our State, and not take on a huge obligation to try and define what they think is a "medical necessity" for the termination of a pregnancy. That is something that should be left to the woman, and if married her husband, and the medical experts to decide, not legislators who have power because they were elected by a community, and may not have any expertise in some very complex areas.
That is my opinion.
unless...
Unless you are unborn ...
Article 1, Section 1 "This constitution is dedicated to the principles that all persons have a natural right to life, liberty, the pursuit of happiness, and the enjoyment of the rewards of their own industry; that all persons are equal and entitled to equal rights, opportunities, and protection under the law; and that all persons have corresponding obligations to the people and to the State."
Then you can be legally murdered.
Alaska mom
I appreciate your view, but when you say "unless you are unborn" you are making an assumption that human being is being legally "murdered".
That assumption is that the microscopic union of a human cell and a human sperm, is "living human being." It is a very small combination of cells that that takes hours or days before it anchors in a place where it continues to grow. There is no one that can say for sure that it is a full human being- that is an assumption. If it fails to anchor in the right place, the womb of a woman, it may die in a very short time.
A form of what some consider "abortion" is the "morning after pill" that prevents a microscopic union from anchoring. It doesn't "kill" anything, it simple stops a possible process. If a woman is violated by someone, and her egg and the sperm of the violator has come into union, does a woman have no right at all to reject the invasion of another cell into her body? Is that an "abortion" ?
I am not a woman. But if someone injected into me a virus or bacteria that would impact the rest of my life, against my will or desire, should I not have the right to reject it as soon as I know it is in my body?
I know, and fully understand that people have beliefs and assumptions that to them are very important. There is a belief by some that at the instant that a human sperm and egg come into contact and combination, that it is a fully human person. That is a belief, not a proven fact. But we can't allow our personal beliefs and assumptions to determine the lives of other people. I have beliefs and assumptions, but I know they are mine and in no way think that I can impose my beliefs on others.
I also have facts, data, information that at times I use to accept or reject some conclusions. I reject the idea that terminating the life of some microscopic cells is a legal "murder."
That's my opinion. It is not a "fact" it is just a conclusion based on evidence and what I know.
Coghill
I assume, since you care so much about life, that along with insisting that an unwilling woman have a child, you will include in your bill, to be paid for at your personal expense, medical care for the child for life, payment of all costs of raising the child, all costs of education and a job. It never ceases to amaze me that crackpots like you get elected. Its those who vote for folks like you that prevent us from even coming close to being a country in the history of man to be admired.
If you don't like...
If you don't like abortions don't have one.
@wmolson you called a miscarriage a "natural abortion" I've always used the term spontaneous abortion. I think the term "natural" could cause problems in people accepting your arguments.
I think some have lost sight of the actual situation where the question is: Should the State of Alaska be funding abortions? The court came back and said that you need to fund all medically necessary procedures(including abortions). What's medically necessary-well we don't have a definition.
How can you make a definition for every situation? You can't. You can give the doctors guidelines but you can't legislate what a doctor perceives as medically necessary. One doctor might say ok while another might say no. It's a medical opinion.
Many people raised good arguments some citing the Constitution. It's important to remember that your rights are governed by that "piece of paper" and we can add or delete anything any time we want(Think slavery, prohibition, women's voting and most recently in Alaska defining marriage between a man and woman....). In the end we will all have to agree to disagree. Be a good person, help those in need and if someone makes a mistake forgive them-even if you consider an abortion a mistake. In order to be forgiven you must first have the chance to make a mistake.
Internet
Saw a pretty good post somewhere on the internet...Went something like this: The only time the liberal Democrats don't use children as backdrops is at a Pro-Abortion rally. Thought that it pretty much nailed it!
Ak Nut
I appreciate your views and ideas. But a person has to be clear and precise in what they say. For example, I called a miscarriage a "natural abortion." Well, I don't know what other term would be more appropriate when a cluster of cells in a human body are unable to develop into a fully human fetus and is then, through simple biology ejected from a woman's body. To say it is "spontaneous" means that someone - the woman, the embryo or fetus - "sponsors and supports" that "decision". It is not a "decision," nor "spontaneous." It is simply what happens when an organism within another living organism is rejected by the host organism.
It is easy to say " If you don't like abortions, don't have one."
That seems rather simplistic to me, especially as a male who has never been pregnant. Maybe someone should tell me, "If you don't want to take on the lifetime responsibilities of being a father to a child, then you should never have sex or impregnate a female human."
The point of the article and subsequent comments was that some in our state legislature said they wanted to define what is "medically necessary." But when it comes to medical decisions most of us, including a majority of legislators (except for a couple of them) are not medical doctors, have not legally practiced medicine in Alaska.
When you say that some commentators have cited the national Constitution but it is now just a piece of paper. It is the basis upon which our nation was founded and has, over time, been amended and changed at times, and in some cases only after a long civil war and thousands of citizens killed.
What we have to do is look at that Constitution clearly, without and political partisanship trying to interpret it along political partisan lines, and with aid come to an agreement that some idea is not just what our founding fathers had, but is what we as United States citizens understand as the rule of the land.
It is not about being "forgiven if you make a mistake," its about humans, medicine, human rights and trying to determine what is fair for all citizens.
We can't just "agree to disagree" but decide what is fair, equal, right or wrong regarding human rights.
I have no idea who you are, nor anything about you as a person. But I do hope that you appreciate the great psychological, moral, sometimes religious turmoil that goes on within a woman when she may have to terminate a pregnancy within her body.... it is much more than a "mistake" or being "forgiven," I as a male have never had to live through the kind of decision in life, but I do appreciate what that might be for a woman.
To have state legislators, mostly male, try to decide and determine what is "medically necessary" to me seems to be far beyond their responsibility or competence as representatives elected to office by a local community.
That's my opinion
as a secular American,
I don't appreciate religious organizations, the catholic church in particular, getting special treatment only to turn around and force their religious doctrine on me. If the catholic church wants to sponsor pro-life legislation they can go ahead and give up their tax exempt status. One or the other. I'm not interested in political lobbying firms getting a waiver just because they are affiliated with a religious organization.
Legislating a medical definition based on religious beliefs is beyond deceptive. Your god is not my god to honor. My god isn't a deceptive con artist while apparently yours is.
Molsen your undeniable
Molsen your undeniable ability to use logic, personal experience and research to form opinions is absolutely amazing to me. It's almost like you don't really have an agenda or any biased view. I wish I were in one of your classes teaching anything.