Four senators voted Friday against a procedural move by Senate President Charlie Huggins, R-Wasilla, to waive a committee referral on a proposed constitutional amendment, and one of them was a member of the Senate majority caucus: Sen. Dennis Egan, D-Juneau.
Now Egan’s future in the caucus is unclear, with the Juneau senator — who joined the majority in a surprise defection across party lines last November — and the Senate majority leader saying that his membership is likely to be discussed during caucus meetings Tuesday. But Huggins himself praised Egan as a “good man” and dismissed the idea he could face consequences for opposing the referral change.
Egan said Monday that he regrets his vote, but said candidly that he thinks his caucus’ leadership went about it in the wrong way — even as he acknowledged that his opposition could earn him the boot from the caucus.
“They’re probably going to kick me out,” Egan said, half-jokingly. “I don’t know what’s going to happen.”
Senate Democrats rose in objection Friday when Huggins recommended that a referral to the Senate Education Committee for Senate Joint Resolution 9 — a proposed amendment to the Alaska Constitution from his fellow Wasilla Republican, Sen. Mike Dunleavy, to remove a constitutional prohibition on direct public funding of private and religious schools, be removed in favor of a referral to the Senate Judiciary Committee — chaired by Senate Majority Leader John Coghill, R-North Pole, who is cosponsoring the resolution.
Egan voted alongside minority Sens. Hollis French, Bill Wielechowski and Berta Gardner — all Anchorage Democrats — against Huggins’ recommendation, which passed 11-4 in the considerably depleted chamber.
Asked Monday afternoon whether, as Egan predicted, Egan’s membership in the caucus would be a subject of Tuesday’s caucus meetings, Coghill said it would be “up for discussion.”
“We all agreed that we would follow procedural votes,” Coghill added. “I don’t know if there was a conversation other than that, but I can tell you it will be a conversation in the caucus.”
But Coghill referred the matter beyond that to Huggins, whom he said put together the organization. And when asked about the issue minutes later, Huggins struck a much different tone than Coghill had.
“Dennis Egan is a good man,” Huggins said. “He’s our friend. I don’t know why anybody would want to talk about kicking him out of the caucus. I don’t even know of any conversations about talking about Dennis.”
Huggins dismissed the idea of Egan facing any other penalty for his vote.
“Dennis Egan’s a part of our caucus,” said Huggins. “We like him. He’s important for the geographic representation, and he’s a good man. Good friend of mine.”
Explaining his vote Monday, Egan said he objected because Sen. Gary Stevens, R-Kodiak, chairman of the Education Committee and Huggins’ predecessor as Senate president, was out of town and unable to vote.
“You know, it was just procedural, but it really upset me,” Egan said.
Stevens was unaware of Huggins’ plan to change committee referrals, according to his chief of staff, Katrina Matheny. He was traveling out of state for much of last week and arrived back at the Alaska State Capitol Monday, but could not be reached for comment on this story.
While Egan grumbled about his decision to vote against the change — “I should have just shut up,” he said at one point — he did not back off his objection to it Monday.
“I shouldn’t have done it, and I apologized to them,” said Egan, seconds before adding, “I just think it’s unfair to the chair of the committee.”
Asked whether he would cast the same vote again, Egan replied, “I voted the same way twice.”
Huggins called the roll two times, with Egan voting against the change both times.
The Senate minority caucus released a statement Friday after the vote condemning the change and suggesting it is part of a pattern of controversial committee referrals.
Wielechowski said Monday that the S.J.R. 9 referral change “was just over the top.”
“I don’t know how you don’t refer a bill that has the biggest ramifications on education in our state since statehood to the Education Committee,” said Wielechowski. “Clearly, it’s an education bill.”
Wielechowski also remarked, “There are some very odd referrals that have no explanation … other than they’re being referred to committees where they’re more likely to get a favorable response.”
Asked about these controversial committee referrals Friday, and whether they are being done for political reasons, Huggins rejected the idea immediately.
“I don’t think in those terms,” Huggins said. “That’s certainly not the conclusion I would come to. … It’s certainly not one that I’ve thought about and quite frankly have little regard for.”
Of S.J.R. 9 specifically, Huggins explained, “To be quite frank, in my opinion and some other good American, good Alaskans’ opinions, it is a legal issue that requires extensive education conversation, that only creates an option, and that is in this case to change the Constitution, or to look at the question of the proposal to change the Constitution, and if that change happens — which is a legal action, right, and a vote of the people, of democracy — then you have the education conversation. I mean, changing the Constitution is not, quote, ‘an education issue.’”
Huggins then said he should not have referred the resolution to the Education Committee to begin with.
“Nobody likes to admit that they’re wrong,” said Huggins. “In my opinion, I made a mistake the first time around in referring it to Education. And when I looked at the implications, it appeared to me that it was a judicial issue that had a fiscal note associated with it, potentially, down the line, and that those were the two important elements in my mind.”
Wielechowski said he also agrees with Huggins that the resolution should go before the Judiciary and Finance committees, but he thinks it should be heard in the Education Committee as well. He said an Education Committee hearing would provide “a full vetting.”
Dunleavy, the resolution’s sponsor, said Monday afternoon that his resolution seeks to avoid ambiguity in the Constitution over what constitutes “the direct benefit of any religious or other private educational institution.” He noted that the state already provides scholarships for students attending private religious colleges like Alaska Pacific University, a United Methodist liberal arts school in Anchorage.
“If you’re 19 years old and we want to go to APU, we’ll give you money to go there,” said Dunleavy. “If you’re a 15-year-old and want to go to, for lack of a better (example), Monroe Catholic (High School), we won’t give you the money to go there. … Either both are direct or neither are direct. Either both are indirect or neither are indirect. That’s the issue with this S.J.R. 9. The issue is, why is it O.K. for us to do this because you’re taller and you have hair on your face, but if you’re shorter and you’re younger, you can’t? It doesn’t say that in the Constitution.”
Dunleavy also said he was “not really surprised” by the referral change Friday. He said he does not mind which committee hears the resolution.
“I think it is a constitutional issue, but it doesn’t matter to me either way, as long as it gets public hearings,” Dunleavy said. “And it would get a public hearing whether it was in Judiciary, whether it was in State Affairs, whether it was in any committee, it’s going to get a public hearing.”
• Contact reporter Mark D. Miller at 586-1821 or at mark.d.miller@juneauempire.com.





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At least Dennis had his convictions...good for ya! To bad more legislators do not have the cajones to stand up and be heard if they disagree with their caucus.
Help me understand
Dennis was elected for his views, opinions, and ideas. Right?
Now he is being punished because he held true to his beliefs and didnt follow the leader so to speak?
And, whats wrong with this picture. We wonder why our government from local through and including Federal is so messed up. We elect em then they either choose or are firced through threats to violate our trust in them and become another weak follower.
There is supposed to be more than one senator in the Senate with a bunch of puppets, more like a bunch of individuals representing thier districts.
Maybe I'm wrong and just thought I lived in Alaska a part of the United States.
Sen. Egan is a man of principle.
Thank you, Senator Egan.
Senator Egan
You always know where you stand with Senator Egan. You may not agree, but he is not afraid to speak his mind! Bravo Senator! Wish more were like you!
Senator Egan
You always know where you stand with Senator Egan. You may not agree, but he is not afraid to speak his mind! Bravo Senator! Wish more were like you!
A very open and shut case
A very open and shut case that illustrates a huge flaw in our political system. It's all about who wins the elections and then them following the orders given to them by the leaders. So much for one person one vote. I'm glad everyone sees Egan as a stand up guy, it'll make it harder for the caucus to try and reprimand him for following his ideas on what's best for the state.
No mixed messages from me
Thank you Sen. Egan. Your objection (and others') is on the right path for strengthening the educational integrity of the public school system for future Alaskans.
Mike
Egan for Governor
Please run, Dennis.
Thank You Sen Egan
Bravo for doing the "right thing"
Public funding of religious schools isn't an education issue?
Well, I guess the world is flat, too.
Thanks, Senator Egan, for maintaining your principles and integrity, and upholding your oath of office.
Yes, everyone sees Egan as a "stand up guy"
But it's really just party politics in Alaska: You've definitely got to "go with the flow" here, and it's enough to get us all to salute a turn-coat, myself included.
We elected him to play the game and he's playing it---That's really all we can ask of our politicians, so, yes, Thank You, Sen. Egan---You've made the right friends, it seems, and given the rest of us a lesson in Alaskan politics. Sleep well.
I second "kiki"s recommendation...Egan for governor in '14!
Dennis should resign from the Majority Coalition now...and declare his candidacy for the governorship as soon as the session adjourns.
He can run on a program of defending Alaska from the petrocracy and defending the majority of Alaskans from the dominance of the religious Right.
It's your moment, Dennis...do what the people of this state need. You are being called to be part of history.
It was stupid for the majority to play this trick with the bill
the measure was going to pass the Senate anyway...why get heavy-handed and ugly about it?
He joined up...
Now he doesn't want to play. What next?
go Dennis!
At least on this vote he's showing integrity. We could use more politicians like him!
go Dennis!
At least on this vote he's showing integrity. We could use more politicians like him!
go Dennis!
At least on this vote he's showing integrity. We could use more politicians like him!
I'm less interested...
...in the political gamesmanship than I am in our constitution being amended to give tax dollars to religious institutions. THAT should be getting a bright spotlight on it.
Who sleeps with who in the Senate...whatever.
Man of ingtegrity? sort of.
Man of ingtegrity? sort of. He regrets his vote to do the right thing. That's not cause for mass fawning. There will be many more votes requiring integrity with the group running the legislature now. The monkey driving the legislature bus is on acid.
theoretically
we (the citizens) elect people to represent our views not theirs. No wonder Congress is completely screwed up, they think they are there for themselves and not to represent us. What is really sad, judging from some of the comments above, they have convinced a number of the public they are elected to represent themselves and not the public.
No Brad, we elect them to
No Brad, we elect them to think and not follow along as sheep. Senator Egan did just that. it is disconcerting that he is now questioning that, but he hasnt waffled. He voted based on principle, which is what we elected him to do. To vote the will of the people, one would have to be constantly polling all the registered voters to determine what your stance was. Egan was voted in because he has a sound logical mind and tries to keep it open. His basic premise is one that the majority of voters felt was sound and that he has and will continue to make informed decisions along a logical tract. He did what he is supposed to do. Kudos Dennis!
There are rules
Kick him out so he can share the broom closet office with French. Give Egan's office to someone who follows the rules.
Truth be told...
Sarah's legacy. Who's got the last laugh!!
he's a good man
A few years back, he bought my snow thrower, besides that, I think he is a good man.
He's sorry for doing the "right thing"?
I don't really understand the praise for him. Good on him for objecting to the procedure, I guess. But what is with all the his guilt and regret for speaking up to power? Appointed by Palin and unopposed in 2010. Joining the majority caucus and now regretting his decision to object to something they did. If he's going to run for something, I hope he grows a stronger backbone so he can actually stand up to challenges he'll have to face.
I guess
this means support for ALL religious schools, regardless of denomination? So, if someone wants to open a madras, the State will support it?
Our founders understood the dangers of government supporting religion - too bad religious institutions don't understand the dangers of government supporting religion.
The Senate Majority thinks
that a blond, blue-eyed Jesus(with short hair and a fresh shave) was here WAITING for the Inuit, Yupik and Inupiat when they all slouched in over the land bridge from what the Majority thinks He called "Dadless Russia". They believe that He and his friend Moses(the first pastor at the Anchorage Baptist Temple and the banisher of gays and Muslims from the North, as they see it) tried to lead the new arrivals to the Promised Land(the Railbelt) on Moses' Holy Skidoo, but that the Dadless heathens refused to follow.
The same Majoritiy also believe He spoke English, loved ham steak and was the first registered Republican, but that's another story.
I guess
Denis is a FINE representative to our state , and the people in it. He knows what he is doing, and will continue to vote for the betterment of our state. RIGHT ON Dennis
I guess
Denis is a FINE representative to our state , and the people in it. He knows what he is doing, and will continue to vote for the betterment of our state. RIGHT ON Dennis
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I don't want public funding of anything religious but I think it's curious that when liberals want a ballot measure they say, "Let the people vote," but when it's something they don't want they try every procedural move to stop the people from being able to vote on the measure.
Latitude, isn't it who sleeps with whom; as in he sleeps with her (or in the instance of the Minority, he sleeps with him).
I agree with comments made by Brad F. and by the eponymous Fbomb.
I think that Sen. Egan needs to learn that if you choose to ride for the outfit then you have to wear the brand. Hopefully he has learned this lesson in an easy way. Sometimes lessons learned have much higher tuition.